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[PHISH] RE: Dr. Richard Carmona

Ronald Simon Traumamd at nyc.rr.com
Fri Jul 13 02:24:19 BST 2007 

I too must give pret's response a standing ovation!!!!
ron simon

Doug Condit Jr wrote:
>
> ROFLMAO!!!!!
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     From:  /"Pret Bjorn" <p.bjorn at netzero.net>/
>     Reply-To:  /"Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list"
>     <trauma-list at trauma.org>/
>     To:  /"'Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list'"
>     <trauma-list at trauma.org>/
>     Subject:  /RE: Dr. Richard Carmona/
>     Date:  /Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:10:25 -0400/
>     >The surgeon general is the nation's doctor, responsible for the
>     health of
>     >all Americans, not just the ones enjoying the favor of the
>     administration.
>     >
>     >Think of it like the attorney general, who is responsible for the
>     >constitutional rights of all Americans, not just the ones...
>     >
>     >Wait.  Strike that.
>     >
>     >Pret
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >-----Original Message-----
>     >From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
>     [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
>     >On Behalf Of William Bromberg
>     >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:06 PM
>     >To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
>     >Subject: RE: Dr. Richard Carmona
>     >
>     >OK I can't take it anymore. The position of the Surgeon General
>     is to be the
>     >administration's spokesperson on medical policy. Looking at his
>     CV he has no
>     >special expertise on stem cell research or STDs. His background is in
>     >trauma, bioterrorism, and etc. No, he was not hired for his
>     scientific
>     >opinion. It's a political job. It's always been a political job.
>     If you
>     >can't parrot the administration's lines (which I find misguided),
>     you should
>     >resign or not have taken the job in the first place. When you hold a
>     >political position, you only get to disagree in private.  How
>     long do you
>     >think Tony Snow would last if he started disagreeing with the
>     administration
>     >during press conferences?
>     >
>     >Furthermore, I frankly don't believe the moral outrage. It's not
>     like the
>     >position hasn't been political in the past -- anybody remember
>     the Jocelyn
>     >Elders fiasco? Remember who fired her for talking about
>     masturbation (rhymes
>     >with "linton")?  From an article on this topic from the
>     Washington Post:
>     >[Former Surgeon General David] Satcher, Carmona's predecessor,
>     who served
>     >from 1998 to 2002, said that under President Bill Clinton he
>     could not
>     >release a report on sexuality and public health, in part because of
>     >sensitivities triggered by the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
>     >
>     >How long do you think Hilary's Surgeon General would last if they
>     started
>     >talking about how Roe v. Wade should be overturned? When a
>     democrat appoints
>     >a SG that is pro-life, anti-stem cell, etc. etc. I'll buy the
>     surprise and
>     >disappointment I've seen on this topic. Till then, nope.
>     >
>     >
>     >Bill Bromberg
>     >
>     > >>> "Eaves.Wanda" <Eaves.Wanda at mccg.org> 7/12/2007 12:09 PM >>>
>     >A disturbing point was made in this quote from the NPR article; which
>     >further shows what Dr. Carmona must have faced.
>     >
>     >Virginia Congressman Tom Davis, the committee's senior
>     Republican, said
>     >he was sympathetic to Carmona's complaints, but only to a point.
>     >
>     >"I'm not sure what the boundaries are for appointed political
>     officials
>     >who sometimes have opinions different from the elected
>     administration,"
>     >Davis said. "It's tough trying to define where you be a team
>     player and
>     >where you speak out, and you try to balance that every day. But
>     we have
>     >politicians who run the government, and not scientists."
>     >
>     >I thought he was appointed to give scientific opinion??
>     >
>     >we
>     >
>     >
>     >-----Original Message-----
>     >From: Charlene M Morris [mailto:cvmmorris at gmail.com]
>     >Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:28 PM
>     >To: Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list
>     >Subject: Re: Dr. Richard Carmona
>     >
>     >http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11854247* *
>     ><http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11854247><http://w
>     >ww.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11854247>
>     >
>     >easier yet.
>     >CMM
>     >
>     >
>     >On 7/11/07, Gabriel Castillo <castill at eng.usf.edu> wrote:
>     > >
>     > > If you go to
>     > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/washington/11surgeon.html?hp
>     on the
>     >left
>     > > hand side there will be a link to the .pdf of the transcript right
>     >above
>     > > his photo.
>     > >
>     > > > Does anyone have the URL or copy of hisd recent remarks to
>     Congress?
>     > > >
>     > > > Jeff Hammond
>     > > >
>     > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > > > From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
>     > > > [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
>     > > > On Behalf Of Bob Waddell II
>     > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:06 PM
>     > > > To: 'Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list'
>     > > > Subject: RE: Dr. Richard Carmona
>     > > >
>     > > > Being sent off line
>     > > >
>     > > > Take care,
>     > > >
>     > > > Bob
>     > > >
>     > > > Robert K. Waddell II
>     > > > Vice President -
>     > > > Emergency Preparedness and Response
>     > > > "The Sacco Triage Methodology"
>     > > > ThinkSharp, Inc
>     > > >
>     > > > Wyoming Office:
>     > > > 1302 East 5th Avenue
>     > > > Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001
>     > > > (307) 920 - 2020 cell
>     > > >
>     > > > bwaddell at sharpthinkers.com
>     > > > or bobwaddell at bresnan.net
>     > > > www.sharpthinkers.com
>     > > >
>     > > >
>     > > > -----Original Message-----
>     > > > From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
>     > > > [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
>     > > > On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com
>     > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 7:11 PM
>     > > > To: trauma-list at trauma.org
>     > > > Subject: Dr. RIchard Carmona
>     > > >
>     > > > I have been searching my data bases for an e-mail address of
>     trauma
>     > > > surgeon
>     > > >
>     > > > Dr. Richard Carmona, the former US Surgeon General.   Please, if
>     >anyone
>     > > > has
>     > > >
>     > > > the e-mail, send it to me off line.
>     > > >
>     > > > Kenneth L Mattox, MD
>     > > >
>     > > > _kmattox at aol.com_ (mailto:kmattox at aol.com)
>     > > >
>     > > >
>     > > >
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