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Wed Jul 4 20:20:31 BST 2007

I read everything Heinlien wrote (even when he got to be a dirty old man)
but I missed the TANSTAAFL reference.

On 7/4/07, fiona wallace <tielserrath at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hey - did you waste..er spend...your teenage years reading Heinlein, too?
>
> TANSTAAFL is right, but we think it's fairer to spread the load rather
> than have people live in fear of the financial burden of illness. The other
> financial stuff (Job loss, disability) is bad enough without a hospital bill
> the equivalent of three or five year's wages.
>
> I think linking our GDP and unemployment solely to our nationalised health
> system is a bit ingenuous, too. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than
> that. Especially as among countries with a nationalised system ours is one
> of the most comprehensive and also one of the cheapest.
>
> Over here it tends to be those who could afford insurance who make the
> most noise about the problems with our system.
>
> It's a bit like when you vote, you see. You always ask yourself 'how will
> the policies of each party help the very poorest, the ones who don't show on
> anyone's radar?' You vote according to what will be best for those who have
> the weakest voice, the ones it's easiest to ignore.
>
> And you arrange your health system the same way.
>
> Dr Fiona Wallace.
> UK
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]On Behalf Of William Bromberg
> Sent: 03 July 2007 14:04
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Universal Free Health Care (.......nanny and laundry)
>
>
> No  health system is free of problems, but at least no one is bankrupted
> in
> the UK  through paying for medical treatment.
>
> This is not true. The drag  of the 50-60% tax necessary to pay for the
> "FREE" health care causes poor economic growth leading to worse overall
> conditions. For example the per capita GDP in the UK is $12,000 less
> than the US (2006 number —$31,800 v. $44,000) and the unemployment
> rate is higher (5.5% v. 4.8%).
>
> The costs of a "free" system are hidden. I understand the human desire
> to get something for nothing but continue to marvel at the ability to
> believe it can happen. There is no free. TANSTAAFL.
>
> Bill
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