non-trauma surgeons doing trauma

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l apologize for OFF topic mail but can l ask you all, as illiterate med
student wannabe trauma involved some day: can some intensivist be trauma
certificated and if so can he be actively involved in SICU management?
and is there a EM/ICU combine residency?if so,can one after finishing
residency take a fellowship in trauma?
once again l apologize for dummies questions,hopefully someone will be kind
enough
l'm sure someone will... :S
tnx ahead
ante

2007/7/4, Enrique Daza <edazamd at verizon.net>:
>
> Attached is a reference I found comparing high volume (>35 pts with ISS>15
> per year), vs low volume surgeons. They found mortality was no different
> in
> six different injury patterns. Low volume surgeons had higher mortality in
> certain subsets.
>
> E Daza
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valerie Malka" <osiris11_2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Trauma &amp, Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: non-trauma surgeons doing trauma
>
>
> > Hello Dr Gross and others
> >
> >  I was in fact talking about non Trauma/Critical Care certified or
> trained
> > General Surgeons.
> >
> >  Bearing in mind I am writing from Down Under where certified trauma
> > surgeons are as rare as hen's teeth......and Critical Care certified
> > surgeons even rarer! Most of our General Surgeons are NOT trauma or
> > Critical Care trained.
> >
> >  The reason I have asked this question is that there is a perception
> here
> > in the Land of Oz, that essentially anyone can "do" trauma (operative or
> > non-operative) and in fact it is not seen as a Specialty. Therefore on
> > that premise the Health Department does NOT think they necessarily need
> to
> > designate Levels and concentrate resources and expertise.
> >
> >  So again........does anyone know of any literature showing different
> > outcomes between these surgeons, such as we have seen in Consultant or
> > Attending led and supervised resuscitations/operations etc. There is
> clear
> > evidence that the more Senior the presence in trauma care from the
> start,
> > the better the outcome but what about type of Senior presence?
> >
> >  Thankyou
> >
> >  Valerie Malka
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr Valerie Malka MBBS,FRACS,MIPH
> > Director of Trauma Services
> > Department of Surgery
> > Westmead Hospital
> > Westmead, Sydney
> > Australia, 2145
> >
> > Tel: 612 9845 7072
> > Fax: 612 9845 8321
> > Website: www.westmeadtrauma.org
> > Website: www.austraumaconference.org
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