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Jean-Pierre Arsenault jparseno at yahoo.comFri Jan 26 22:17:26 GMT 2007
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Very interesting case; Dr Hardcastle, you seem to be confident in stentsDo you have concerns over the long term patency of such stents in this young patient, and will he have to would you put him on any antiplatelet therapy, because if he has to, he probably won't take them (judgement from the description Dr. Mattox has made of the patient and general penetrating trauma population!). 50% penetrating trauma... don't have that here! Makes for rather nice cases! I'm eager to see what people would do with innominate artery if they chose one-time repair in this contaminated case... or is repair indicated? JP Arsenault ----- Original Message ---- From: "Hardcastle, Tim, Dr <tch at sun.ac.za>" <tch at sun.ac.za> To: "Trauma & Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:13:24 AM Subject: RE: Sunday's Case Ken I'll bite: Remember my comments from the context of my practice: South Africa - most trauma general surgeons do regularly work in the chest due to our high penetrating trauma load (50%) See my comments between your questions -----Original Message----- 1. Fix both lesions at same anesthesia Yes - stent and R-posterolateral thoracotomy (re question 3/4) 2. One incision or two One, provided the innominate is stented - otherwise sternotomy and vascular repair first then RLT 5. Should surgeon prepare a muscle flap upon entry into chest to cover eventual esophageal injury No - we use a pleural flap 6. Is this really a stentable vascular lesion, and is there data to support using a stent in this particular location. Should this be on protocol or is it a standard of practice Yes: See my previous post with references - we consider this safe practice and standard in our centre for STABLE injuries, with minimal consequences in the context of other injuries 7. If surgery is done for innominate artery what incision Sternotomy 8. Does this patient need one lung anesthesia. How would that be accomplished Have double-lumen tube in, only go onto one-lung if have problems visualising inside the chest 9. What sutures to use for esophageal repair I use 3/0 PDS, single layer 10. Should patient have a proximal diverting cervical esogostomy If within 24hours of injury - NO 11. Does patient need a feeding gastrostomy Not routine in our practice - we place an NGT through the repair and feed from day 2 post-op; we don't see higher leak rates in this otherwise young/healthy group 12 Now that everyone knows that he needs surgery, does he need antibiotics and which should be used and for how long, if at all As a rule in Trauma - prophylaxis at incision and X24 hours; we would use either Augmentin ,2g X3 alone or Cephuroxime 1,5g and Metronidazole 500mg X3 13. Is there any special problems with combined vascular and esophageal injuries Not if adequate wash-out / debridement is performed in the oesophagus 14. If an anterolateral or posterolateral thoracotomy is selected, which side should be cut and WHICH INTERSPACE. Does it make any difference I would go right-sided 4th or 5th interspace,posterolateral - as the oesophagus lies sub-pleural and to the righ till about 10cm above the hiatus 15. Is it possible to suture an esophageal injury endoscopically I have no idea - but I wouldn't think so!!! 16. Is this a General SUrgery, Trauma Surgery, Acute Care SUrgery, Thoracic Surgery, or Vascular surgery case. Who should be the primary doctor and write ALL the orders? Could ONE surgeon be the only surgeon in this case Ken - this really depends on te individual center's set-up. For us our trauma / vascular unit shares an Academic head (my immediate boss) Danie du Toit, who is an endovascular wizz (see the previously referenced publications) and we all feel comfortable in the chest, so we (Trauma Surgery) would likely do it all, whereas if it was just the oesophagus without a vascular injury then Thoracic may be given the option, for experience sake of their residents as they don't see these often - we will remain involved. But yes, one surgeon could be the only surgeon - if other support was lacking! 17. Following surgery should this patient go to PACU or ICU and who should be his doctor. ICU - should be electively ventilated for 12 hours, then standard weaning and ICU care; in our hands this is a combined intensivist-anaesthetist and trauma-intensivist (me) led unit. Again just my thoughts Tim Dr T C Hardcastle M.B.,Ch.B.(Stell); M.Med(Chir); FCS(SA) Senior Surgeon / Senior Lecturer: Surgery (Trauma and ICU) ATLS instructor and DSTC Cape Town Course Director Intern program Coordinator: Surgery M.Med (Emergency Medicine) Executive Committee member Clinical Head (Director): Diana Princess of Wales Trauma Unit Division of Surgery (General) Room 4064 Department of Surgical Sciences Tygerberg Hospital / University of Stellenbosch PO Box 19063 Tygerberg 7505 Western Cape South Africa e-mail: tch at sun.ac.za Cell: +27824681615 Office: +27219389281 or 4911 pager 0302 -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
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