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Simon Scothern Simon.Scothern at lakesdhb.govt.nzMon Jan 8 22:52:29 GMT 2007
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Happy New Year everybody, A case of déjà vu perhaps? We hear this type of story from time to time and let's face it, we'll hear it again.....and again...... OK Lance, you've got an M&M coming up. How about taking a "Carnegie" style approach to this. The first issue is that of education, review and reflection. The M&M is an opportunity to focus on procedures concerning failed intubation. Dr Gross has made reference to this in his earlier posting. The other issue is that of pride (and ego etc..), we're all guilty of it. Please forgive the generalisations here, but I'm sure your pride took a beating when you were unable to use your skills as part of an automatic, natural team process. I bet this isn't the first time. On the other hand, I'm sure "chopper doc's" pride has taken a larger beating for several obvious reasons. You may now have an opportunity to beat it a little more. However, this wouldn't benefit anybody and you'd probably regret it afterwards. Wouldn't it be a great result if everybody comes away from the M&M with a bit more team spirit and consolidated knowledge (and wisdom)? The chances are, "chopper doc" will have learned from this experience whether he admits it to anyone or not. Let him swallow his own pride in his own time, he'll be all the better for it. Guess I'm still full of Christmas cheer! Hope it lasts a while. Regards Simon Scothern FRCA, MRCP ICU Clinical Director/Consultant Anaesthetist Rotorua Hospital Pukeroa Hill Private Bag 3203 -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Ronald Gross Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 1:25 a.m. To: traumalist Subject: Re: "emergency cricothyrotomy" Tough call, Lance, 'cause we weren't there, and that counts for a whole lot. Now, having said that, first move was appropriate - pre-oxygenate. While I understand that the flight was going to be a long one, and I too would be concerned enough, given the circumstances and presumed SCI with the possibility of ascending edema and further respiratory compromise, to consider intubation. The good news is that the patient was - by your report - maintaining his own airway with a SO2 of 94% on 60% mask. Couple of questions - did you or the doc have a bougie or LMA available? How about a CombiTube? I think - and again being there is half the battle when you are asked to be the Monday morning quarterback - those might have been reasonable options in a fellow that was maintaining his sats and was easy to breathe with a BVM. Given the fact that you are a paramedic, and the doc was not able to intubate, forgive me for being a bit harsh when I say that I think that he should have left his ego at the door after 3 failed attempts and at least given you a look, as long as you were able to maintain adequate oxygenation - and I must stress that last part of the statement. If you weren't then going to a cric would have been appropriate. Just my long distance 2 cents. Take care, Ron >>> "LanceO Oosthuizen" <LanceO at sedibeng.gov.za> 1/7/2007 1:46 PM >>> Hi All I am an ALS paramedic from SA just south of Johannesburg. Just recently I received a call of a male patient 29 who came off a quad bike in a remote area just out side the town where I live. The mechanism was that he veered off the road and hit a wire fence and well cemented pole next to the road. He was not wearing a helmet. O/A I found the patient lying supine about 4 m from the point of impact. The patients vitals were as follows: GCS = 12/15 BP = 110/45 Pulse = 64 bpm no significant pathology on the ECG tracing HGT = 5.4 mmol/l SpO2 = 94% with 60 % re-breather. H-T revealed that the patient has no neurological function from the shoulders down, even to deep pain stimulation. there were areas of mottling and the patient had parasthaesia over the left anterior abdominal area. There were abrasions to the hands and the left flank. The patient had an ethanol smell on the breath and bystanders mentioned that he had been drinking. My immediate action was to control c-spine manually and fully immobilize the patient, insert bilateral large bore I.V. lines. We were about 100 km from the nearest facility with a neurosurgeon. My reaction was to task the medical helicopter to cas-evac the patient to the hospital. When the Chopper arrived the attending Doctor assessed the patient and elected to RSI the patient, due to the distance (20 min flight) and patient was intoxicated. After administering etomidate and sux the Doctor then proceeded the intubation, first attempt was unsuccessful the patient was then pre-oxygenated to a sats of 99%. Second and third attempt was also unsuccessful, but managing to pre-oxygenate the patient after each failed attempt. He mentioned that the patient has a difficult air-way and was difficult to visualize the cords. After the third failed attempt the Doctor then elected for an "emergency cric" on the patient. I requested one more attempt by my self and he refused me to have an attempt, I made it known to him that I thought to go for an cric was a bit of a harsh move now. None the less he still proceeded. Several attempts were made at the cric, but with no success, I then stood in and lost my temper a bit and told the Doctor to stand aside and that I would take over now and attempt to intubate the patient orally. I managed to intubate the patient on the first attempt visualizing the cords with ease. I would score the patients air way a 2 for difficulty at the most as he did have a rather large tongue and the epiglottis was also larger than usual. I am just requesting the view of any one on this call, on the 24th January 2007 I will be attending a M&M on this matter. Regards, Lance Critical Care Assistant Paramedic South Africa. -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html Confidentiality Notice This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential or proprietary information which is legally privileged. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. 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