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Greetings list members,

This is directed toward those that are in Level I and II centers (or other
high volume centers).

How many of you use physician assistants on your service?

For those that have residents and fellows, what is the role of the PA during
pt care? Does the PA take call? Do the PAs manage patients in the SICU?

Do you see a change in demand for PAs in trauma care?

Hi,
In the one trauma centers I work in the PA sees just the mildly ill  
patients and places sutures and or staples in patients. The PA is  
never seen in the trauma rooms nor is he/she in a place where there  
are serious medical conditions. NP's are treated exactly the same way.
At the other hospital newly named trauma center level II for 2010. It  
does not use NP's or PA's at all.
Carol Eisenbrandt

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>    1. Nearly Famous! (tuganddawn at talktalk.net)
>    2. Physician Assistants in Trauma (Michael Krowka)
>    3. Re: Physician Assistants in Trauma (Ronald Gross)
>    4. RE: Physician Assistants in Trauma (Brian E. Fletcher)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:56:15 -0000
> From: <tuganddawn at talktalk.net>
> Subject: Nearly Famous!
> To: <trauma-list at trauma.org>
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> Hello to everyone.
>
>   Before I begin may I wish all of you wherever you are and whatever  
>  your beliefs a very Merry Christmas and a pleasant and event free   
> New Year.
>      I am a Paramedic/Firefighter working in the UK and have   
> recently been asked to consider appearing in a  documentary series   
> about the ambulance service speciffically dealing with concerns   
> about the increase in calls, abuse of the service and out of hours   
> GP service effects.
>     A few months ago I would have been completely against this idea   
> but recent reforms, behaviour of management and treatment by other   
> health care professionals has made me consider the potential   
> benefits of exposing certain ignored aspects of my service   
> (including the appalling lack of professionalism, training and   
> negligence by many Paramedics).
>   I wonder if the list might offer any insights they have about the   
> ethics and problems faced with this sort of media exposure   
> especially when one considers the uncontrolable environment we work   
> in. I would also appreciate any advice about how to deal with these   
> "cutthroat" sensationalist media types!
>    In any event, thanks for your time and trouble and I hope to hear  
>  your responses.
>
>   Yours with kindest regards
>
>   Tug Crumpton
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:00:59 -0700
> From: Michael Krowka <mkrowka at gmail.com>
> Subject: Physician Assistants in Trauma
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Message-ID: <C38707BB.3C00%mkrowka at gmail.com>
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> Greetings list members,
>
> This is directed toward those that are in Level I and II centers (or other
> high volume centers).
>
> How many of you use physician assistants on your service?
>
> For those that have residents and fellows, what is the role of the PA during
> pt care? Does the PA take call? Do the PAs manage patients in the SICU?
>
> Do you see a change in demand for PAs in trauma care?
>
>
>
> Michael D. Krowka
> EMT-P
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:17:30 -0500
> From: "Ronald Gross" <Rgross at harthosp.org>
> Subject: Re: Physician Assistants in Trauma
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Message-ID: <47618535.7FF1.00B9.0 at harthosp.org>
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> Michael,
>
> We have 4 PAs and one APRN on service.  Contact me off-line and I   
> would be happy to discuss.......
>
> Ron
>
>>>> Michael Krowka <mkrowka at gmail.com> 12/13/2007 6:00 PM >>>
> Greetings list members,
>
> This is directed toward those that are in Level I and II centers (or other
> high volume centers).
>
> How many of you use physician assistants on your service?
>
> For those that have residents and fellows, what is the role of the PA during
> pt care? Does the PA take call? Do the PAs manage patients in the SICU?
>
> Do you see a change in demand for PAs in trauma care?
>
>
>
> Michael D. Krowka
> EMT-P
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:10 -0500
> From: "Brian E. Fletcher" <bfletcher at columbus.rr.com>
> Subject: RE: Physician Assistants in Trauma
> To: "'Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list'"
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> We have 10 Nurse practitioners.  We manage the step down ICU, floor
> patients, and respond to traumas.  We essentially function like a resident,
> performing primary/secondary assessment, FAST, central lines, Chest tubes, A
> lines, suturing etc.  We also have an NP clinic and an attending clinic. The
> NP clinic sees lower acuity patients and we also assist in the attending
> clinic.  Hope this helps.
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
> On Behalf Of Michael Krowka
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:01 PM
> To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
> Subject: Physician Assistants in Trauma
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> Greetings list members,
>
> This is directed toward those that are in Level I and II centers (or other
> high volume centers).
>
> How many of you use physician assistants on your service?
>
> For those that have residents and fellows, what is the role of the PA during
> pt care? Does the PA take call? Do the PAs manage patients in the SICU?
>
> Do you see a change in demand for PAs in trauma care?
>
>
>
> Michael D. Krowka
> EMT-P
>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:39:34 EST
> From: Krin135 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Nearly Famous!
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
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>
> In a message dated 13-Dec-07 14:57:36 Central Standard Time,
> tuganddawn at talktalk.net writes:
>
> I  wonder if the list might offer any insights they have about the ethics and
>  problems faced with this sort of media exposure especially when one
> considers  the uncontrolable environment we work in. I would also   
> appreciate any
> advice  about how to deal with these "cutthroat" sensationalist media types!
> In any event, thanks for your time and trouble and I hope to  hear your
> responses.
>
>
>
> Tug:
>
> good luck with your project.
>
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