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Sat Aug 11 03:07:53 BST 2007

Bottom line with the question at hand, which would be more properly
addressed at another forum, is the fact that almost anything we try to
implement in the hot zone of the fireground will most likely simply add more
jeopardy to the crew and patient itself. Unless we are talking about a
morbidly obese patient and you are the ONLY rescuer...my humble opinion
would still be: drag them (even pull them by the hair if you must) out. THEN
you may be more able to implement these and many other techniques.

Many different techniques for carrying a victim have been developed and
taught. If you come up with something else? Feel free to enlighten us.
Products? Perhaps a blanket. Medical management: none. Again, I am thinking
the worst case scenario here: fire/smoke all over, you are a SAR unit and
you are doing a hasty search for any victim (dead or alive). You found
one... Pull it out. The odds of leaving a presumably dead victim to find
another one alive are nothing but speculation unless proven otherwise. 

Gustavo E. Flores Bauer, MS4 EMT-P :.
e.mail: gflores at emergencyteam.net
web: www.emergencyteam.net
cel: 829-770-0707

"My karma ran over your dogma."

-----Original Message-----
From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
On Behalf Of Pond Life
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:02 PM
To: 'Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list'
Subject: RE: Casualty extrication from a fire risk area

Nothing would be my preferred option. Just get em out.
Hadnt considered combitube but yep, makes sense. 
King Airway ! ? ... I'm looking that one up :)

regards
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
On Behalf Of Charles Brault
Sent: 09 August 2007 10:25
To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
Subject: Re: Casualty extrication from a fire risk area

----- Original Message ----
From: Pond Life <pondlife at emergency-care-practitioner.com>
To: "Trauma & Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2007 2:16:46 PM
Subject: RE: Casualty extrication from a fire risk area

Hi Ian,
Just gee m out is the correct option for H&S reasons. If you are having to
wear full PPE then you are in the wrong place to perform ALS interventions.
LMA may be a compromise but I would opt for BVM until in a cold zone.

**********************************
Nope !

Combitube or King Airway or nothing

Charles

AirTraq ! ? ... looking it up
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