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Mon Apr 30 21:07:39 BST 2007

You cannot defend ground transport with data from Kansas at noon in the
summer time.  I have been in Manhatten on 42nd Street stopped for 45 minutes
next to an ambulance with lights and sirens. He was going about 0 MPH.

On 4/30/07, Andrew J Bowman <andrewj.bowman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course the data looks good from Korea, Vietnam and Iraq. Those places
> have/had unsafe or non-existent ground transport capability. Air was the
> only way to go. The US is not the same thing when it comes to ground vs.
> air
> EMS transport. You cannot defend US air EMS by quoting situations in third
> world war zones.
>
> Andrew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bjorn, Pret" <pbjorn at emh.org>
> To: "Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:44 PM
> Subject: RE: Trauma in the air Victims wait for help
>
>
> The data is actually rather compelling and durable; it just doesn't come
> out of most parts of New Jersey.  Instead, think Korea, Viet Nam, and
> Iraq.
>
> For that matter, I could (if HIPAA permitted) give you the names and eye
> colors of at least a couple of our patients each year who would be
> decidedly more dead or disabled if not for Maine's LifeFlight program.
> To be fair, I admit our trauma center mortality is going UP at the same
> time -- owing to patients who would have otherwise died at the community
> hospital, or during the truck ride (from thirty minutes to four hours)
> to a Maine trauma center.
>
> Just because you live ten minutes' drive from a trauma surgeon, doesn't
> mean everyone does.
>
> Pret
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org
> [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of rescsteve at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:03 PM
> To: trauma-list at trauma.org
> Subject: Re: Trauma in the air Victims wait for help
>
> Show me the data that the use of the copter makes a difference in
> patient outcomes.
>
> Steve
>
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