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The point of PTC was that it could be adapted to any country irrespective of
their resources. The ATLS principles are universal but CT scanners etc are
not. PTC resources are free and it is up to the local faculty to supply what
is available. So it is of no use in a developed country but may be
appropriate in a country with poor resources. 

Matt Oliver
Bendigo
Australia

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On Behalf Of Sohail Muzammil
Sent: 20 April 2007 04:10
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Subject: Re: Trauma training in low income countries.

Having attended the first PTC South Asian chapter meeting I can add a couple
of points here.

1.    The WHO acknowledges the course but is not promoting it. The
certificate therefore can not have the WHO logo or name.
2.    The course format is too open. No two courses will have the same
content.
3.    There is no standard equipment or skill station requirement.

The ATLS is like McDonalds on the other hand. Well standardized and audited.
The ACS has enough money so why can they not earn some goodwill and waive
the franchise and other fees for third world countries? Beats me.

S Muzammil, FRCS

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From: "Matt Oliver" <moliver1 at iinet.net.au>
To: "'Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list'" <trauma-list at trauma.org>
Sent: Thursday, 19 April, 2007 2:15 AM
Subject: RE: Trauma training in low income countries.

WHO was promoting PTC (Primary Trauma Care)some years ago, this may also be
worth looking into as India is on the list of countries participating. See
http://www.primarytraumacare.org/

Matt Oliver
Bendigo
Australia

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On Behalf Of Miranda Voss
Sent: 18 April 2007 22:07
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Subject: Trauma training in low income countries.

The International Comittee of the Red Cross also
offers the Emergency Room Trauma Course (ERTC) as a
cost effective alternative to ATLS in lower income
countries.

Miranda.

Dr M Voss
Eben Donges Hosital
Worcester
W Cape, RSA.

From: "Hardcastle, Tim, Dr <tch at sun.ac.za>"
<tch at sun.ac.za>
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Roanoke - Proximity oftrauma centers)
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:49:18 +0200
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Rajesh

You do, however have NTMC - the IATSIC lower income
country trauma
course. If yuor passion is strong get involved.
Contact through Indian
Trauma Society.

Tim
Dr T C Hardcastle
M.B.,Ch.B.(Stell); M.Med(Chir); FCS(SA)
Senior Surgeon / Senior Lecturer: Surgery (Trauma and
ICU)
ATLS  instructor and DSTC Cape Town Course Director
Intern program Coordinator: Surgery
M.Med (Emergency Medicine) Executive Committee member
Clinical Head (Director): Diana Princess of Wales
Trauma Unit
Division of Surgery (General) Room 4064
Department of Surgical Sciences
Tygerberg Hospital / University of Stellenbosch
PO Box 19063
Tygerberg 7505
Western Cape
South Africa
e-mail: tch at sun.ac.za
Cell: +27824681615
Office: +27219389281 or 4911 pager 0302

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[mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]On Behalf Of
Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:49 AM
To: Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list
Subject: RE:world road safety.org (was - Disaster in
Roanoke -
Proximity
oftrauma centers)

We have started here. I have been doing talks on
injury prevention
(road
trauma)since January 2006 (New Year resolution,
nothing less !)and so
far
have done free 1 hour multimedia presentations at
various offices,
get-togethers, school annual days, residents
association meetings etc.

My laptop sits out there in the middle of the crowded
OPD showing the
same
presentation over and over  almost very day .(Luckily
so far no one has
tried to nick it !)As you are probably aware,India
tops the list at
death
rates,not only because of increased accidents(too many
vehicles,pedestrians,lack of road rules etc) but also
because we dont
have
ATLS type training or  prehospital care in over 95% of
places.I did the
ATLS
while in the UK, but that was in 1998.

I am also part of the World Road Safety partnership, a
non-governmental
organisation which has just recently come into
being.The official
inauguration is on 24th of this month. Have a look at
www.worldroadsafety.org .

Hope things will be better.

Rajesh

Dr.K.R.Rajesh, MS,DipNB,FRCS,FRCS(Orth)
Consultant Orthopaedic Surgeon
Division of Upper Limb , Arthroscopy & Joint
Replacement Surgery.
Cosmopolitan Hospital
Trivandrum,Kerala,India.

Advisory Board Member
World Road Safety Partnership
www.worldroadsafety.org

"If you drink and drive, you are a bloody idiot !"

"No seat belt? No Helmet? Maybe you are already
braindead !"

Mobile-9447191205

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