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Dain, Catherine dainc at KGH.KARI.NETThu Apr 19 16:13:58 BST 2007
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You're so correct, Dr. Mattox. Having been directly, right smack in the middle of SARS at NYGH in '03, it was a horror to be doing the planning during that type of situation. We already had a disaster plan for things like accidents etc, and it required lots of people to get it going, lots of education, "races" to get even the gear on properly. The gear itself..tents, all that, take up a lot of space in a hospital and require a big space, and someone to take care of it all. We have a CBRN team. We teach staff, physicians in our area fairly regularly, and have practice ourselves to get into the equipment, put up the tent. All this, I'd say from experience, plans for about 70% of the disaster. The other 30% comes from the little things locally..ie, quaratined staff.. How do they eat, go to the washroom and where, staff to take over in the equipment/masks, because no one should be in those more than 60-90 minutes. I agree with learning from others' pitfalls and difficulties. Here in Ontario/Canada, our hearts go out to you and we are thinking of all of you during this horrible time at VT. It affects us all. Our sympathies. cathy -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of KMATTOX at aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:04 To: hammond at umdnj.edu; ladybear_4me at yahoo.com; ccm-l at ccm-l.org Cc: trauma-list at trauma.org Subject: Re: [ccm-l] disaster managemant policies In a message dated 4/19/2007 5:53:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, hammond at umdnj.edu writes: Writing or updating a disaster plan is not: a) something that should be undertaken by just 2 people or b) something readily achieved by adopting off-the-shelf material. Some templates exist (e.g. JCAHO, ANA, etc) but they just offer a place to begin. In the long run they have limited utility. I would start by doing a lot of reading (learn from others' pitfalls) and talking (interview others who have thought this through). It will take considerable time. Hold a bona fide drill/exercise and look critically at your flaws and warts. Do a thorough institutional HVA (hazard vulnerability analysis) to guide your process. If you are part of a health network your plan should be coordinated with your partners. K Mattox responds: I find Dr. Hammond's suggestions very insightful. We in health care see disaster planning and response totally differently from those in EOCs and Unified Command governmental and public health structures. We in trauma and critical care focus on the small number of patients with acute clinical problems, but the public health and governmental infrastructure (spell that silos) focuses on many broader issues of sheltering, evacuation, feeding, clothing, security, relocation, etc. The most successful disaster structures recognize, respect and integrate the talents of ALL of the local community resources, and have a plan to ask for and utilize regional, state, and even federal or military resources if needed. >From a clinical standpoint, most acute disaster response occurs within the first 48 hours, and ALL such resources are LOCAL. Whatever your status, learn the incident command structures in your local area and work towards integrating all of those into one integrated collaborative network. In most countries of the world, the mandate for disaster planning and response for a catchment of people rests with LOCAL GOVERNMENT. This mandate is by law in most cities, states, and countries of the world. The EMS availability and response are also assumed to be governed by the LOCAL governmental incident command, which usually does NOT have an active clinical person in this EOC. The medical personnel in the EOC are most frequently public health persons. The hospital, trauma center, etc. care for patients they receive, often without knowledge of the regional problem, regional dispatch and dispersion, and EOC command decisions. Thus, in many communities, the trauma system, the hospitals, the EMS, in their immediacy of response become SILOs of their own. We are quite prepared for disasters in terms of federal organizations, state organizations, policies, and local EOC web sites. We actually have almost twice the number of independently operating silos than we had per-Katrina. In my humble observation, there is LESS integration of these silos than BEFORE Katrina. We have a complex of Local vs State vs Federal vs EMS vs Public Health vs Hospital vs Trauma Center vs Volunteer organization need for corporate and individual recognition. It is assumed that organizations, especially nationally named funding or policy organizations (NDMS, FEMA, ACS, ACEP, DMAT, HRSA, etc. etc. ) have made recommendations and decisions based on evidence based medicine principles. NOT. Just look for data to support some of the gadgets recommended to be present in the hospital, EMS and trauma centers. Total non standardization and differences in recommendation among agencies, with open questions as to whether or not industry has made some of the recommendations for grants, based on sales potential. Organizations are positioning themselves to be in "control" of evacuee distribution and assignment, not fully understanding trauma, infections disease, chemical, burn, radiation capacity evaluation and treatment of health care facilities. During Rita, some hospitals lost their ability to care for REAL emergency patients because they became a SHELTER for special needs evacuees (with the needs not being medical). Such special needs evacuees do need sheltering and evaluation and support, but NOT at an understaffed, overcrowded regional Trauma, Heart, Infections Disease, Burn (etc.) resource. Jeff Hammond is now capably leading the ACS COT Disaster Subcommittee and I am sure we can see new directions and policies which will help us all integrate our capabilities and resources k ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/index.php?/community/
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