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It would have affected the shooter in the Virginia Tech tragedy.  He walked 
into the gun shop, during regular business hours and legally purchase a 
weapon. I might point out that no one is an outlaw until he or she commits 
his first offense.  Unfortunately the results of the first offense can be so 
tragic!

Arthur M. Lam M.D., F.R.C.P.C.
Anesthesiologist-in-Chief
Director of Cerebrovascular Laboratory
Professor of Anesthesiology and Neurological Surgery
University of Washington
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From: "Moore, Rick" <Rick.Moore at TriadHospitals.com>
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To quote a famous bumper sticker, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws
will have guns". Gun control laws only affect those who walk in to the
gun shop, during regular business hours and legally purchase a weapon. I
am not sure what the answer is, but I think banning guns to end crime,
would work just about as well as prohibition worked to end alcohol
consumption.
Rick Moore

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In a message dated 4/18/2007 9:03:02 AM Central Daylight Time,
hammond at umdnj.edu writes:

1) I don't think a Glock 9mm handgun is used for sport shooting.

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might disagree with you there...and that's just three.

2) There are indeed alternatives to banning handguns. Strategies such
as extended waiting periods, elimiantion of strawman purchases and
elimination of multiple gun purchases within a finite time period are
examples.

ck: yes, and the 'strawman purchases' are already unlawful under US
Federal Law...the others mostly affect the law-abiding folks.

The key is that these strategies need to be coordinated. Currently,  gun
laws are a hodge-podge of local and state ordinances, rendering them
ineffective.
We have some tough gun laws in NJ for example, but as long as  PA does
not, there will be continued importation of illegal guns in NJ from  PA.

ck: aye, there's the rub....and the rather sad part about it is that
this same hodge podge of local ordinances and state laws is impossible
to enforce on any rational basis. Decent enforcement of the US Federal
laws alone (which mandate extended sentences for gun related crimes
caused by prior felons and folks previously adjudged as mentally
deficient) has been shown to reduce gun crime in most of the areas that
it has been tried.

ck

ck
Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP

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