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Wed Apr 18 16:12:26 BST 2007

Actually, gun laws should (and in some cases do and other do not) affect
other means to purchase a weapon such as gun shows and online purchases. 

Jeffrey Hammond MD, MPH
Chief, Trauma/Surgical Critical Care
Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
New Brunswick, NJ
ph: 732-235-7920
e-mail: hammond at umdnj.edu

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To quote a famous bumper sticker, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will
have guns". Gun control laws only affect those who walk in to the gun shop,
during regular business hours and legally purchase a weapon. I am not sure
what the answer is, but I think banning guns to end crime, would work just
about as well as prohibition worked to end alcohol consumption.
Rick Moore 

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In a message dated 4/18/2007 9:03:02 AM Central Daylight Time,
hammond at umdnj.edu writes:

1) I don't think a Glock 9mm handgun is used for sport shooting.  

http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-April/_http://www.steelchallenge.com/_ (http://www.steelchallenge.com/) 

http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-April/_http://www.ipsc.org/whatipsc.htm_ (http://www.ipsc.org/whatipsc.htm) 

http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2007-April/_http://www.uspsa.org/_ (http://www.uspsa.org/) 

might disagree with you there...and that's just three.

2) There are indeed alternatives to banning handguns. Strategies such as
extended waiting periods, elimiantion of strawman purchases and elimination
of multiple gun purchases within a finite time period are examples.

ck: yes, and the 'strawman purchases' are already unlawful under US Federal
Law...the others mostly affect the law-abiding folks.

The key is that these strategies need to be coordinated. Currently,  gun
laws are a hodge-podge of local and state ordinances, rendering them
ineffective.
We have some tough gun laws in NJ for example, but as long as  PA does not,
there will be continued importation of illegal guns in NJ from  PA.

ck: aye, there's the rub....and the rather sad part about it is that this
same hodge podge of local ordinances and state laws is impossible to enforce
on any rational basis. Decent enforcement of the US Federal laws alone
(which mandate extended sentences for gun related crimes caused by prior
felons and folks previously adjudged as mentally
deficient) has been shown to reduce gun crime in most of the areas that it
has been tried.

ck

ck
Charles S. Krin, DO FAAFP

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