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Subacute Care Surgery (was trauma activation and stratification)
E Edhayan edhayan at yahoo.comWed Oct 4 01:13:13 BST 2006
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Dr. Brohi, This is not the experience in the US. In Trauma Centers across the US the Trauma patient is cared for on the Trauma Service staffed by Trauma Surgeons and Surgical Residents from the ED to the time of discharge. Trauma is a big part of surgical training in the US. In fact, on the oral boards one room is dedicated to Trauma and Critical Care. E. Edhayan M.D., FACS Trauma Medical Director St. John Hospital Detroit - Mi 48236 Karim Brohi <karim at trauma.org> wrote: Not a problem....................I think you have no clue what you are talking about......... Dell __________ And you clearly have no clue how to positively contribute to a discussion. Ken et al. There are two primary reasons why emergency physicians are so involved in today's care of trauma patients. 1. Because over the last 30 years surgeons have abdicated from the care of the emergency surgical patient. & 2. Because it's cheaper to have one resuscitation area in a hospital. Of these (1) is by far the most important and most disappointing - and I see little sign of it improving. 99% of all surgeons only want to see the 'good stuff' ie. Patients who need an operation. They only want to be consulted once a full work-up is complete (including a CT on all patients!!) and even then they'd ideally first meet the patient prepped and draped on the operating room table. Their only interest is in the technical aspects of the surgery, and would very much like to hand over care of the patient to internal medicine as the last stitch is placed. They have minimal knowledge of perioperative critical care, limited to a few weeks in residency or a 3-day critical care course they were made to go on. For the trauma patient a quick feel of the abdomen and 'there's nothing surgical here' is baseline surgical resident response. For trauma patients, a trauma team staffed by surgeons, anaesthetists etc but without an ED physician is still a fully competent trauma team. But if the surgeons don't turn up because 'it's only a minor injury' or 'we're in theatre/clinic' - or the surgeons are incompetent - then an eager, present ED physician is the obvious person who is going to fill that vacuum - at least while the patient is in the ED. Whether that management is appropriate depends entirely on the trauma competency of that ED physician - but surgical absence, or absence of interest must be a more serious issue. How have we got here? Primarily I believe that it's a lack of education about emergency surgery. Without knowledge of the intricacies of trauma care, can you really be interested or enthused by it? If your bosses are only interested in genetic markers of oesophageal cancer, or increasing survival of pancreatic cancer by 2 weeks with complex surgery, never educate you on emergency surgery and its imperatives, never teach emergency surgical technique, never enthuse you about perioperative care, never release you from elective surgery to even see the emergencies, the outcome is inevitable. Note there is nothing beyond ATLS in most surgeons' trauma education. Unfortunately I see no answers in the new 'Acute Care Surgery'. The primary motivator for this is supposed to be improved patient care. But the focus is on increasing the number of operating cases for surgeons - not on improving patient access to competent emergency surgeons. Again - surgeons want to do more operating (and more billing) but less care. Further, the older surgeon will withdraw from the on-call rota, have minimal elective practice, fall into management and simply not be around to educate residents and support junior colleagues. The patient of the future may see, in turn, ED physician - Surgical technician - Critical care / Internal medicine. Replace the surgeon with an interventional radiologist and you have the end of trauma surgery. Karim ___________________________________________________ Karim Brohi FRCS FRCA Consultant Trauma, Vascular & Critical Care Surgeon, The Royal London Hospital Specialty Tutor in Trauma & Emergency Surgery, The Royal College of Surgeons of England -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html E. Edhayan M.D., FACS
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