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Hardcastle, Tim, Dr <tch at sun.ac.za> tch at sun.ac.zaWed Dec 20 05:40:24 GMT 2006
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Stephan I do give Calcium only if clinically indicated - it does have side-effects IV, notably bradycardia if unapposed by some potassium. My problem with the crush arguement is a simple one - the tissue ischaemia and reperfusion injury usually happen only with prolonged (>1hour) entrapment and most civilian extrications are performed in less time than that. So what I'm saying is that there may be a place for this type of "controlled release" in the prolonged entrapment case or where you are doing an extrication amputation, but otherwise the risk may outway the benefit. Fluid - fluid - fluid is the way to go: no permissive hypotension here! There is also no conclusive evidence that the Soda-bic / Mannitol regime has a better outcome for the kidneys then fluid alone in the early phase (See the Carlos Brown article in J Trauma) unless you have a CK value over about 15000, which implies the patient must be in a hospital to check the level. Just my thoughts Tim Dr T C Hardcastle M.B.,Ch.B.(Stell); M.Med(Chir); FCS(SA) Senior Surgeon / Senior Lecturer: Surgery (Trauma and ICU) ATLS instructor and DSTC Cape Town Course Director Intern program Coordinator: Surgery M.Med (Emergency Medicine) Executive Committee member Clinical Head (Director): Diana Princess of Wales Trauma Unit Division of Surgery (General) Room 4064 Department of Surgical Sciences Tygerberg Hospital / University of Stellenbosch PO Box 19063 Tygerberg 7505 Western Cape South Africa e-mail: tch at sun.ac.za Cell: +27824681615 Office: +27219389281 or 4911 pager 0302 -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]On Behalf Of Stefan Mark Mazur Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:09 PM To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list Subject: Re: Crush and tourniquets O.K. I'll play. In order to promote discussion, some thoughts on the subject. We know that the problems that ensue in crush are due to diminished limb perfusion, usually due to venous obstruction but possibly arterial as well. The consequence of this is obviously cellular anaerobic metabolism, build up of cellular waste products esp lactate, cellular swelling progressing to cellular death. Resultant metabolic abnormalities coupled with this include potassium, CK and myoglobin release. So all this sits in the limbs until the compressive force is released and allowed back into the general circulation. From a long term management point of view the big issue is the resultant renal failure secondary to rhabdomyolysis coupled with the trauma to the limb and compartment syndrome risks. From the prehospital point of view the issue is the sudden release of potassium and lactae into the general circulation, coupled with the resultant hypovolaemia from suddenely decreased vascular resistance and its effect on the organs principally the heart, which tends to react badly to acidosis and large potasium loads, i.e. significant arrhythmias. We manage these prehospial then by giving adequate fluid load to maintain adequate renal perfusion and protect from effects of hypovolaemia. The addition of sodium bicarbonate to every second or third bag makes sense in an attempt to maintain a urinary pH above 6.5 which decreases the risks of renal failure caused by myoglobbin preciptitation/casts/gel/gunk clogging up the renal tubules/collecting system. But what about the acidemia and potassium load on the heart? My approach to this is to ensure that I have defibrillator pads attached to the patient prior to release (if possible, access permiting) and that I have an ampoule of calcium chloride ready to give at the first sign of ECG changes looking like hyperkalaemia (i.e peaked T waves, no p waves widening QRS etc). Obviously not to be given in the same line as the bicarb, limestone formation is unlikely to help anyone. If we consider that when people are pinned such that crush injury is a factor, it is usually by the lower limbs and usually bilateral then applying tourniquets to both limbs (if possible, often not, or only one limb accessible) just proir to patient release would seem to make theoretical sense. Then once patient released, releasing one tourniquet would allow a measured release of acid and potassium, the effect of this could judged on the basis of ECG changes, if problem treat and wait until treatment (i.e calcium, defibrillation, insulin/dextrose) has been implemented and successful until subjecting heart to a second insult before releasing the second tourniquet. If no effect upon releasing the first tourniquet, then release the second and be ready to treat again. This would seem to be similar to the process of unclamping the iliacs one at a time and monitoring the effects that occurs in aortic surgery. So my thoughts, but I have a question as well to add to the discussion. Would/do people give calcium prophlactically pre-release or are people more inclined to have ready and treat on the basis of clinical/ECG changes? Looking forward to thers thoughts/discussion on this. Cheers, Stefan Dr Stefan Mazur Emergency Physician/Retrieval Fellow Adelaide Australia On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:51:59 +0000 "Mark Hellaby" <hellaby at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Much the talk so far has surrounded major bleeds and >snakes ! > There has been nothing about the use of touniquets to >isolate a crushed limb from circulatory system prior to >release to allow rehydration, acid base analysis / >correction etc and then following this a controlled >staged release in a managed environment....I would be >interested in peoples thoughts on this aspect of touniquet >use aswell regards > > > Mark Hellaby BSc (Hons), RODP > Think you're a film buff? Play the Movie Mogul quiz > for a chance to win fantastic prizes > > > Click here to report this email as spam. This message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl - www.blackspider.com -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html
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