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Anesthesia in the ED

Avi Roy Shapira avir at bgumail.bgu.ac.il
Mon Aug 21 11:51:56 BST 2006


Tim, 

I disagree with the claims that ED docs or surgeons are just as good as
anesthesiologists in airway management. 

I think it should be obvious that someone who does 4-6 intubations each
working day is better than anyone who does them only occasionally, however
well trained.

For the majority of patients, it does not matter. But for the odd patient
with a difficult airway, short neck, low chin, it does. The reason is that
the anesethesiologist had encountered many more of these than any ED doc. 

Lets assume that 2% of individuals have difficult airway. If you do 5
intubations a day, 5 days a week, you will see 50X25 or 1250 a year. That
means 25 patients with difficult airway a year. 

I doubt even the busiest ED doc does more than 50 intubations a year, if
that many. That means that the ED doc, or trauma surgeon will
have to tackle at most one such patient a year. So, however well trained,
your ED doc may not know how to deal with one. 

I would expect a higher rate of surgical airways, in places that do not
use anesthesiologists as part of the trauma team.

I suspect that the reason that you don't have an anesthesiologist on the
team is that you don't have enough of them. 

Our trauma team includes a surgeon, who is the team leader, a surgery
resident, and an anesthesiologist (and a couple of nurses). The latter is
either a certified one, or a senior resident. It works well, and we are
very pleased with not having to worry about the airway management. 

Avi




 , On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Hardcastle, Tim, Dr
<tch at sun.ac.za> wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> In South Africa we have front-room medical officers (GP level - non-surgeons who choose to only work in Trauma Unit / ER) and since 2004 emergency medicine trainees (new discipline in SA) who do the ER airway, together with us (the Trauma Surgery attendings and trainee people). Anaesthetists are available only when not busy in the OR (very seldom).
> 
> We therefore have to be very skilled at airway options and management. Additionally, with the excessive workload: often three or four cases pending for OR at once and only two EOR at night, any remotely stable cases (e.g. GSW with acute abdo but not active bleeding) will wait their turn in the holding area in the Unit, they do not go to OR holding/recovery area. We will moniotr and prioritise as needed.
> 
> Overall the Trauma Service runs the unit, however.
> 
> The joys of the mixed first-third world!
> 
> Tim
> Dr T C Hardcastle
> M.B.,Ch.B.(Stell); M.Med(Chir); FCS(SA)
> Senior Surgeon / Senior Lecturer: Surgery (Trauma and ICU)
> ATLS  instructor and DSTC Cape Town Course Director
> Intern program Coordinator: Surgery
> Program Manager: Emergency Medicine (SU)
> Clinical Head (Director): Diana Princess of Wales Trauma Unit
> Department of Surgery Room 4064
> Tygerberg Hospital / University of Stellenbosch
> PO Box 19063
> Tygerberg 7505
> Western Cape
> South Africa
> e-mail: tch at sun.ac.za
> Cell: +27824681615
> Office: +27219389281 or 4911 pager 0302
> 
> 
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> 
> At SJH, emergency medicine does the trauma airways (kids and adults) and anesthesia responds only if requested. The residents receive strong training in airway management and anesthesia and become quite good, putting them to sleep and paralyze 'em as necessary. We rarely see anesthesia in the ED, and it has not been a problem in the residency's tens year history. DB
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Aviel Roy-Shapira, M.D.              Soroka University Hospital &
Dept. of Surgery A. and              Ben-Gurion University Medical School 
the Critical Care Unit               POB 151, Beer Sheva, Israel
 
email:avir at bgumail.bgu.ac.il         Fax:972-7-6403260 voice:972-7-6403390





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