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article in the may issue of "Annals of Emergency Medicine"
Tony Joseph tjoseph at ihug.com.auSun Apr 23 08:35:58 BST 2006
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Dear Caesar The availability of attending Surgeons is a little dependent on who is on call. I don't think that any of the surgeons you have mentioned provide a 24/7 coverage so that while the system may work when they are on call and in-house, I don;t think it is universal in Sydney or in the rest of Australia for that matter. The Alfred in Melbourne ( the busiest Trauma Hospital in Australia) doesn;t have trauma surgeons in house 24/7 last time I checked, If a hospital can provide an attending trauma surgeon within 15 mins they are doing pretty well down here. With the Trauma laparotomy rate at about 5% for all major trauma cases ( and much less for a thoracotomy) it is difficult to argue for an in-house Attending trauma surgeon. Perhaps if we ever managed to consolidate the Trauma services in Sydney to 1 or 2 centres providing acute Trauma and Surgical care, we may have a chance? Hope you are well Regards Tony Joseph Sydney On 23/4/06 8:28 AM, "Caesar Ursic" <cursic at gmail.com> wrote: > Dr Paul M Middleton wrote: > > "just try for a moment to think outside the box you are in and imagine > living in a > country (and I am talking about first-world places like the UK, Australia, > New Zealand and many others) where THE ONLY CHOICE is a hospital with this > arrangement. When you say they shouldn't be seeing trauma patients, then > where should they go? I'll just have a chat to ambulance control here in > Sydney shall I, and ask them to divert to Houston, New York, Boston.?" > > Paul, wait a sec. Don't paint it with such broad brush strokes. What > you call 'the only choice' ...isn't. The situation in Sydney is not > quite as you describe it. At Westmead Hospital and at Liverpool > Hospital, and until recently at St George Hospital, an attending or > fellow-level surgeon would be in the ER promptly for all major trauma > activations. Michael Sugrue and Scott D'Amours can attest to that at > Liverpool (they sleep there when on call), and Valerie Malka at > Westmead; and I instituted a 'fifteen minute' rule at St George during > my two year tenure there, with specific attending call-in criteria > (and this was part of our quality assurance process). And I'm willing > to bet that a similar policy exists at Auckland Hospital, although I > cannot be 100% sure (Ian, are you lurking?) > > CM Ursic, MD > Santa Fe, New Mexico > USA > -- > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html
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