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article in the may issue of "Annals of Emergency Medicine"
JonWalsh at borgess.com JonWalsh at borgess.comSat Apr 22 00:28:35 BST 2006
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And I make no apologies for my 'surgical perspective' as I AM the one standing over these patients taking care of them from the minute they hit the door. If there are, in your area, "many places" where surgeons aren't willing to make the commitment to the critically injured patient, then those facilities shouldn't be seeing 'trauma patients'.... Trauma (true trauma, not scrapes, contusions and isolated broken bones) is a SURGICAL disease. This nonsense of "studies" not showing the 'value' of an experienced surgeon using their years of judgement to optimize the full outcome of a true trauma patient is because of the near impossibility of doing a "study" with this kind of patient. If you believe trauma surgeons add no value to the initial care of the trauma patient,then 1) go convince the ACS COT who continue to see the 'immediate availability' of a surgeon as ESSENTIAL to Trauma Center verification, and 2) be sure to take your family to a 'trauma center that has surgeons taking call from home.... And if you would do that, I feel very badly for your family.... Jcw ----- Original Message ----- From: trauma-list-bounces Sent: 04/21/2006 07:01 PM To: "'Trauma & Critical Care mailing list'" <trauma-list at trauma.org> Subject: RE: article in the may issue of "Annals of Emergency Medicine" Just the kind of response I would expect from a surgeon...unfortunately in many places they're just not there themselves for the ruptured spleen or open book fracture...and if they are they can't make up their minds!! :-) Paul Emergency Medicine Sydney Australia -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of JonWalsh at borgess.com Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2006 3:57 AM To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list Subject: Re: article in the may issue of "Annals of Emergency Medicine" Just the kind of article I would expect from an EM physician.... Tell them good luck with the next pt with a ruptured spleen or open book pelvic fx.... Jcw ----- Original Message ----- From: trauma-list-bounces Sent: 04/21/2006 01:20 PM To: "'Trauma & Critical Care mailing list'" <trauma-list at trauma.org> Subject: article in the may issue of "Annals of Emergency Medicine" Dear list-members, Recently I've read postings about the need for trauma surgeons with education that will enable them to deal with trauma patients without the need for physicians from other specialties. In the May issue of the Annals of Emergency Medicine S.M. Green writes, if I've correctly understood, that there is no proof that the routine presence of surgeons in the ER when trauma patients arrive is beneficial. I've brought you the abstract and wonder what the trauma masters think about it. Eli Alkalay Rural Family Physician Moshav Herut Israel Annals of emergency medicine -may 2006 Is There Evidence to Support the Need for Routine Surgeon Presence on Trauma Patient Arrival? Steven M. Green MD , The trauma center certification requirements of the American College of Surgeons include the expectation that, whenever possible, general surgeons be routinely present at the emergency department arrival of seriously injured patients. The 2 historical factors that originally prompted this requirement, frequent exploratory laparotomies and emergency physicians without trauma training, no longer exist in most modern trauma centers. Research from multiple centers and in multiple varying formats has not identified improvement in patient-oriented outcomes from early surgeon involvement. Surgeons are not routinely present during the resuscitative phase of Canadian and European trauma care, with no demonstrated or perceived decrease in the quality of care. American trauma surgeons themselves do not consistently believe that their use in this capacity is either necessary or an efficient distribution of resources. There is not compelling evidence to support the assumption that trauma outcomes are improved by the routine presence of surgeons on patient arrival. Research is necessary to clarify which trauma patients require either emergency or urgent unique expertise of a general surgeon during the initial phase of trauma management. Individual trauma centers should be permitted the flexibility necessary to perform such research and to use such findings to refine and focus their secondary triage criteria. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html
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