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AW: just BLS them....

Gustavo E. Flores gflores911 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 19 03:13:04 BST 2006

Up to what expense should anybody try more than 3 times?

I've sure had my third attempts, even a fourth and a fifth until the tube
finally went in. But I guess I was just lucky because if, because of
overconfidence, I would've kept trying and turned out not to be successful,
I would've ended with an edematized trachea that is giving a hard time to
intubate and ventilate... therefore setting the stage for a scenario of
"human excreted byproducts impacting the air distribution system".

Gustavo E. Flores Bauer, BS EMT-P :.
San Juan, Puerto Rico
MSII, Iberoamerican University
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
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Subject: Re: AW: just BLS them....

ASA algorithm supports a limit of 3 attempts... 
>From Mort, TC - Emergency Tracheal Intubation: Complications Associated
Repeated Laryngoscopic Attempts. Anesth. Analg 2004, 99:6-7-613 
In a review of offsite intubations in a major urban Level 1 trauma center,  
relative risk serious complications of  >2 attempts:
Severe hypoxemia - 14X
Aspiration - 4X
Bradycardia - 4X
Cardiac arrest - 7X (!!!) 
Dr. Mort's exceptional works should be must-reads for anyone with any  
responsibility for a patient's airway.
Scott Hax
Lebanon, NH 
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