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Tue Apr 4 20:09:54 BST 2006

One lumen, two balloons. I have NEVER seen anyone get it in the 
trachea, even on a manikin, which has a much larger airway than many 
"real people'. It is very hard to judge it without really getting hands 
on with it. Our anesthesia people are loving it as an alternative to 
the LMA in fact. It is user friendly for basic providers, although I've 
only really heard of Wisconsin putting it at that level so far.

   Jules

Julie K. Scadden, NREMT-P, PS

-----Original Message-----
From: Bjorn, Pret <pbjorn at emh.org>
To: 'Trauma &amp; Critical Care mailing list' <trauma-list at trauma.org>
Sent: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:08:25 -0400
Subject: RE: LMA

   Perhaps a teachable moment for me: I'm only seeing one lumen in the 
King LT,
and no vents in the deep (obturator) end.  Therefore, if you mistakenly
stuff this into the trachea, it becomes an impressive suffocation 
device --
in precisely the same manner as an EOA.

I'm eager to be corrected.

Pret

-----Original Message-----
From: jkaymdc at aim.com [mailto:jkaymdc at aim.com]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 5:02 PM
To: trauma-list at trauma.org
Subject: Re: LMA

  Well, as much as I hate to admit my age, I personally don't think it
is at all like an EOA. You always know you have an airway with the King
LT also..try one, you might like it..

 As for the LMA...is it used prehospital somewhere??

 It is not in the scope of practice for prehospital use in Iowa..

 Jules
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Bjorn, Pret <pbjorn at emh.org>
 To: 'Trauma & Critical Care mailing list' <trauma-list at trauma.org>
 Sent: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 16:49:42 -0400
 Subject: RE: LMA

 Andrew,

  You must be quite young: it doesn't look nearly as much like a
Combi-Tube as
  it does an esophageal obturator airway. When I was a youth (four
channels
  on TV), EOA's suffocated any number of people. At least with a
Combi-Tube
 you know you've got an airway somewhere.

 As for the LMA: in our OR they're used so commonly that it's nearly
 impossible to train ETT technique on live patients. If ours is a
  representative hospital, I'm betting traditional endotracheal
intubation
 fades from prehospital and emergency medicine.

 Pret Bjorn, RN
 Bangor, ME USA

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Andrew J Bowman [mailto:sumieb at compuserve.com]
 Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:28 PM
 To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
 Subject: Re: LMA

 Looks like a cheap Combi-Tube

 Andrew
 >
 > >>What is the King LT??<<<
 >
 > Here you go....this is ONE of the best things I've seen since
 > sliced bread...:-)
 >
 >
  >
http://www.kingsystems.com/EDUCATION/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/KINGLTAirwa

 > ys/tabid/132/Default.aspx

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