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Mon Oct 24 04:35:41 BST 2005

Thanks for pointing out. I actually looked at this program and it indeed
sounds very interesting. Nonetheless, I would like to see something that
could be instituted as common ground. Dr. Mattox said that some of the
ground-level providers were even unaware of the resources out there. This is
a serious issue that undermines the ability of a program (residency, or any
other education level) to give some basic understanding of what we currently
have. 

Gustavo E. Flores Bauer, BS EMT-P
MS II Iberoamerican University School of Medicine

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From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
On Behalf Of Bob Waddell II
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:50 PM
To: 'Trauma & Critical Care mailing list'
Subject: RE: Disaster medicine curriculum

Mr. Flores,

Look at the "Master of Disaster" program at http://www.dismedmaster.com/  Be
aware there are other similar named programs, but this is the credible one.

Take care, 

Bob 

Robert K. Waddell II
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Emergency Preparedness and Response
"The Sacco Triage Methodology" 
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-----Original Message-----
From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
On Behalf Of Gustavo E. Flores
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:54 PM
To: 'EMED-L -- a list for emergency medicine practitioners.'; CCM-L List;
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Subject: Disaster medicine curriculum

Could anybody send me or point me where to find a curriculum for the
disaster medicine component of an emergency medicine residency? I did a
google search with very limited results.

Gustavo E. Flores Bauer, BS EMT-P
MS II Iberoamerican University School of Medicine

 <http://www.emergencyteam.net/> www.emergencyteam.net (web site)
<mailto:gustavo at emergencyteam.net> gustavo at emergencyteam.net (primary
e-mail)

(809) 309-9779 RD
(787) 630-6301 PR
Skype Username: gflores911
Alternate Messenger E-mail:  <mailto:gustavoflores911 at hotmail.com>
gustavoflores911 at hotmail.com

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change the ones I can, and wisdom to know the difference. - San Francisco de
Aziz

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From: ccm-l-bounces at ccm-l.org [mailto:ccm-l-bounces at ccm-l.org] On Behalf Of
KMATTOX at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:12 PM
To: arthurmorgan2 at gmail.com
Cc: trauma-list at trauma.org; ccm-l at ccm-l.org
Subject: Re: [ccm-l] Earthquake and other disasters of this year

In a message dated 10/23/2005 1:02:56 PM Central Standard Time,
arthurmorgan2 at gmail.com writes:

As I have said a few times in USA the Search and Rescue people have been
doing this for many years.
I admit that there are few Trauma Surgeons in the dog (K9 ) and other rescue
Teams, but despite that they do know what they are doing. Just as important
as this they know what their neighbours are doing.
Many operate under FEMA 100, 200, 700 standards and similar or derived
standards, but here too they seem to work and are working hard to improve
the standards. Obviously from the other side of the world I may be getting
the wrong idea, but when in doubt approach the professionals who work in a
system.

I am terribly sorry, but I could not disagree more.   I do not believe from
what I have experienced, and what I have learned from my colleagues around
the world, that there is very good communication between the "professionals"
at the top level, including the doctors in the public health sector at the
central governmental level and the LOCAL incident command.    The agendas
are completely different.     The "professionals" of which you speak, may
make a decision which is completely wasteful and in opposition to a local
plan, program, and activity.     Search and Rescue is one thing,   Disaster
management is totally a different issue.   DMAT teams are present in the
Louisiana area and have been since shortly after Katrina hit.   The local
doctors in New Orleans and Baton Rogue do not know of their role, existence,
and are not cooperating in wht the local people think is best.     Even if
the federalized volunteer outside doctors have a better plan, it is not
communicated to those who are working in the local hosptials.     BIG
PROBLEM.   The communications problem is not for lack of radios and
telephones, it is that the greatest medical asset in aiding the local
population is often totally boxed out of involvement for a long list of
political and economic reasons.    

k
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