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Fri Oct 7 20:42:08 BST 2005

Tom (and any others on whom the shoe may fit):

Please, attack the message, not the messenger.

Phil Hoffman,
EMTP
Former debate semi-finalist

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Anthony Horan [mailto:thoran at sarah.br] 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:14 PM
To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
Subject: RE: Bali Bombings

Don, 

How can you write such BS. Do you not read, have no access to a library?

In all probability never took a history lesson in your life, unless it was
the classic comic book series.

Tom

> ----------
> From: 	Don Benson[SMTP:bensonblues at comcast.net]
> Reply To: 	Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
> Sent: 	sexta-feira, 7 de outubro de 2005 14:13
> To: 	'Trauma & Critical Care mailing list'
> Subject: 	RE: Bali Bombings
> 
>  The US has shed blood for 2
> world wars to police the planet when Europe was spineless to do so and 
> paid with millions of lives.
> 
> 
> DB
> bensonblues at comcast.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon S. Doig [mailto:gdoig at med.usyd.edu.au]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:25 PM
> To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
> Subject: Re: Bali Bombings
> 
> 
> America is not the World's policeman (Isn't there a movie with puppets 
> about this???). It is not up to any one country/religion/person to 
> determine another's policy/objectives/goals.
> 
> The world would be a better place if we were all more tolerant and 
> respectful of each other.
> 
> Gordon
> 
> Don Benson wrote:
> 
> >Radical Islam isn't new. Early in the 18th Century, the Ottomans used 
> >Caucasians as slaves. Wahhabism inspired the birth of the lasting 
> >dynasty, the House of Saud (remember them folks?) and the growing Ottoman
Empire.
> >Fortunately for Europe, technology was in its infancy or things would 
> >have been different. We had another close call with Hitler: his 
> >mistake was in choosing the wrong scapegoats (the Jews - high tech 
> >thinkers who brought us atomic energy and rocketry); if he would have 
> >gotten the bomb first, again, things would have been different.
> >
> >The Islamic Republic of Iran makes no bones about its radical theocracy.
> >Either you trust a crazy man with a gun, or you don't. I don't, and I 
> >suspect that our "pseudo-religious nitwit" in the White House doesn't 
> >either. But, what are his options at present? Bomb Iran? Woo Nellie, 
> >would he catch hell from the Left all over the planet. He caught hell 
> >from the Left when he went after the last crazy man who postured like he
had a gun.
> >
> >I believe we are experiencing the twilight in the War on Terror. I am 
> >also afraid that it will take a nuclear device in one of our major 
> >cities before we the people of this great nation unite in common 
> >cause. Remember (and
> I've
> >tried): you can not reason with a crazy man. By all rational 
> >standards, a young man who is convinced that if he kills a thousand 
> >infidels that he
> will
> >be rewarded with heaven and 72 virgins is either crazy or has a small
> penis,
> >or both.
> >
> >If we don't curtail Iran's (and any radical theocracy) goal of atomic 
> >weaponry, things will be different for our children.
> >
> >Don Benson, DO, FACEP
> >Department of Emergency Medicine
> >St. John Hospital and Medical Center
> >Detroit
> >bensonblues at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Thomas Anthony Horan [mailto:thoran at sarah.br]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 7:41 AM
> >To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
> >Subject: RE: Bali Bombings
> >
> >David,
> >
> >I don't think silence indicates a lack of sympathy for the families 
> >of the dead, or a lack of humanity, nor a lack of respect for the 
> >efforts of the rescuers. The real problem is we don't know what to do 
> >about it. How does one fight a religious ideology, the idea of 
> >martyrdom, rewards in the after life and so on? Especially so when we 
> >are led by a pseudoreligious nitwit
> of
> >our own.
> >
> >Now that western nations have essentially given up on the neuclear 
> >program of Iran, are powerless to do anything about it, and have 
> >squandered in Iraq the moral high ground they held after 9/11, such 
> >bombings we have seen in the resorts of Bali and Egypt, pale to 
> >insignificance next to the holocaust planned by radical islamist once 
> >they achieve the ability. >
> >
> >Tom
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>----------
> >>From: 	Fontana, David[SMTP:DFontana at phcn.vic.gov.au]
> >>Reply To: 	Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
> >>Sent: 	terça-feira, 4 de outubro de 2005 22:22
> >>To: 	trauma-list at trauma.org
> >>Subject: 	Bali Bombings
> >>
> >>I note with interest the lack of discussion surrounding the recent 
> >>repeat terror attacks on tourists and citizens of Bali.
> >>Are we disheartened, disinterested or overwhelmed? Normally an 
> >>affront to humanity of this nature would draw some comment from the 
> >>list; why not on this occasion?
> >>After discussion with my colleagues, I offer our deepest sympathies 
> >>to the victims and their families. And we further commend the 
> >>efforts of the rescuers, medical staff and volunteers who aided the
victims.
> >>We fear that this repeat attack will further damage the economy and 
> >>livelihood of the Balinese people who depend so much on the tourist 
> >>dollar for survival.
> >> 
> >>David R Fontana RN
> >>Dip.App.Sci., B.Nsg(N.Ed).,PGrad.Dip.Adv.Clin.Nurs.(Melb.)
> >>Associate Nurse Manager
> >>Anaesthesia & Post Anaesthesia Care Unit Frankston Hospital 
> >>Melbourne, Victoria, AUSTRALIA
> >>03 9784-7404
> >> 
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