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Sat Mar 19 13:08:20 GMT 2005

Dr Gross
the are allot vest on the market, some have neck protections, some are
good some bad. and vest/body armor save a lot of life we who  has be to
iraq have all see it( 4 ak47 rounds form 25m).
but if you can fight, in it it will get you killed. i have see that in
BIH under UNPROFOR. in the old bodyarmor if you are under sniperfire you
must move fast.
the new vest is fare better then the old ones.
my point is that you can put armor all over the body, and you still get
kill, reason is that you can't move fast. so it is a balance.

Frank Hansen

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> Subject:
> Re: neck/lower face protection for troops
> From:
> "Ronald Gross" <Rgross at harthosp.org>
> Date:
> Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:08:02 -0500
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>Frank,
>I never said it was easy to use, and as one who wore this body armor
>for 4 months (June through October), I full well know what it feels like
>in the heat of the Iraqi summer.  The fact remains that the guys just
>wouldn't cinch up the neck strap, and almost no one wore the groin
>protector for the very reasons you cited. 
>I also know that the coalition soldiers wearing the body armor ARE
>ALIVE because of it.  That is why 66% of all American casualties that I
>saw while deployed came in alive with extremity injuries - while 66% of
>the enemy forces came in dead from torso injuries.
>Ron
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>no thay dont use such protection. you have to see protection too way, 
>you must be abel to work/move (head +50C in the summer ect) and still 
>have protection. and the vest use give good protection, the mortalite
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>around 10%, and most injuries is arms and legs.
>if you have to must protection on you can not move, if you cant move 
>you  are as god dead. so protection is not easy.
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>Frank Hansen, MB
>former medic in iraq (04)
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