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Ian Seppelt SeppelI at wahs.nsw.gov.auTue Jan 25 00:08:18 GMT 2005
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No!!!!!!! The head injured patient with a significant loss of consciousness but still with clenched teeth needs a proper induction of anaesthesia as much as if not more so than any other patient. This group of patients are likely to have a significant traumatic brain injury, but also may be in the category that will potentially do well with proper treatment (as opposed to the GCS 3 head injury patient with no responses, who is likely to do very badly no matter what you do). If you just give a bit of midazolam and a muscle relaxant you risk profound intracranial hypertensive as a consequence of your clumsy induction. The effects of midazolam are so unpredictable you cannot reliably use it as an induction drug. The 'intermediate grade' head injury patient is one of those groups who really does need a skilled induction of anaesthesia, however you choose to do it, not a clumsy 'midazolam, sux, tube' sequence. The only other comparable group I can think of is the sick preeclamptic who likewise needs a really skilled induction and is an impending disaster if things are done without finesse. Cheers, Ian Ian Seppelt FANZCA FJFICM Staff Specialist in Intensive Care Medicine The Nepean Hospital, PO Box 63, Penrith NSW 2751 Clinical Lecturer, University of Sydney >>> Jfried1202 at aol.com 01/25/05 08:20am >>> cruel and unusual is a bit much for midazolam use! I think the disagreement is because we are not specifying the level of consciousness of the patient needing RSI. Many head injured patients already have a significant loss of consciousness but continue to have clenched teeth, the midazolam is more of a kindness act when what is really needed is muscle relaxation. Obviously, if the patient is conscious and alert, midazolam alone would not be a good choice. Whatever drug one uses, a thiopental, propofol, they both depress cardiovascular function and must be used with caution, does the risk outway the benefit, hence the popularity of etomidate. JAF CCM/Anesthesiologist -- trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html ###################################################################### Attention: This message is intended for the addresses named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Wentworth Area Health Service. This e-mail has been scanned for viruses ######################################################################
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