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Karim Brohi karim at trauma.orgMon Oct 11 17:32:51 BST 2004
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Actually, 'Equipoise' as defined by clinical trials (FDA/EMEA) does not mean that you believe that the two possibilities are equal - but that the outcome for the treatment arm is not thought to be worse than the control arm. At present, giving tranexamic acid to trauma patients is by no means standard - even for the cogaulopathic non-surgical bleeding (which is not that rare!). Here is the actual paragraph you're referring to, which I think is a bit more sensible than the individual sentence. "The fundamental eligibility criterion is the responsible doctor's 'uncertainty' as to whether or not to use an antifibrinolytic agent in a particular adult with traumatic haemorrhage. Patients for whom the responsible doctor considers there is a clear indication for antifibrinolytic therapy should not be randomised. Likewise, patients for whom there is considered to be a clear contraindication to antifibrinolytic therapy (such as, perhaps, those who have clinical evidence of a thrombotic disseminated intravascular coagulation) should not be randomised. Where the responsible doctor is substantially uncertain as to whether or not to use an antifibrinolytic, all these patients are eligible for randomisation and should be considered for the trial." The main issue I have with the protocol is that the inclusion criteria could be interpreted as giving the drug to a patient who has had an episode of haemorrhage, has now stopped bleeding, but is still within the 8 hour window. Ie - you don't have to have on-going haemorrhage to give the drug. (This may just be my reading of it). This was one of the main issues with the Factor VIIa trial Karim -----Original Message----- From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org] On Behalf Of Guy Jackson Sent: 11 October 2004 08:14 To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list Subject: Re: CRASH 2 Karim, Yes, I agree with all that, but it is not the point I was trying to make. Check out the protocols section of their web site (http://www.crash2.lshtm.ac.uk/). It clearly says that you should only randomise if you are uncertain as to weather to give or not, i.e. you are in a state of equipoise. This may be excellent research ethics (unsurprizing as it comes from a group associated with the Cochrane Group), but my point is that I think this situation is a relatively rare occurence. My question therefore is do people use tranexamic acid routinely in anything other than extreme situations? There is certainly little enough published evidence. Put 'trauma' and 'tranexamic acid' into Ovid and combine the results and you get three papers: Murphy DP. O'Donnell T. McDonnell J. McElwain JP. Treatment of anaemia in the polytrauma Jehovah's Witness. [Review] [26 refs] [Journal Article. Review. Review, Tutorial] Irish Medical Journal. 96(1):8-10, 2003 Jan. . Mattsson J. Peterson HI. Risberg B. Influence of tranexamic acid on lung tissue fibrinolysis after trauma. [Journal Article] Bibliotheca Anatomica. (16 Pt 2):416-8, 1977. Risberg B. Fibrinolysis in the lung. Experimental studies on tissue localization and on the response to drug induced antifibrinolysis and to trauma. [Journal Article] Acta Chirurgica Scandinavica - Supplementum. 458:1-36, 1975. Put it into PubMed (which does not have the indexing to MeSH terms that Ovid does) and you get 65, but many of them off topic. The best is a recent review from Kovesi T and Royston D which concludes that there is no adequately powered study in cardiac, hepatic, or orthopaedic surgery. I can't get to the Cochraine review at present, but I doubt it comes to a different conclusion. The problem comes when you decide what question to ask in order to solve the riddle. This is one of the reasons for a pilot study: To try out the question in a real world setting. The question they have asked is 'Does tranexamic acid benefit the patient if I am unsure whether to give it or not?'. You will get a different result if you ask the question:'Does tranexamic acid benefit the patient survival rate if I give it to all patients with a severe injury?' You can argue that the lack of evidence leads us all to equipoise, but I worry that the question as asked injects a note of uncontrolled into the population being studied if you follow this route. Some will think that you have to have severe polytrauma, and some will give it to every patient with an isolated compound fractured femur. I would simply like to see some pilot work out there to help resolve these issues. This leads me on to your concerns regarding patient numbers in CRASH1. If I remember correctly the study aimed to recruit more than 22,000 patients so that it was properly powered (one can only admire the investigators scientific integrity and determination). These studies have their interim analysis at fixed points determined in advance from the power studies. I agree that an analysis might have shown problems earlier, and may even have been done. Unfortunately the results of these never get published, so we will never know. At least they did do one before the half way mark and act on it. I would be worried in deed if they had done one earlier and ignored a adverse finding. I also do not understand why they comment on cause of death. They admit that they did not collect data on this. Why not hypothesise that steroids cause salt and water retention, the knock on effect is to worsen brain oedema? Cheers, Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: Karim Brohi <karim at trauma.org> To: 'Trauma & Critical Care mailing list' <trauma-list at trauma.org> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:40 PM Subject: CRASH 2 Guy , I think the CRASH 2 trial has more merit. "CRASH 2 is a large efficient placebo controlled trial of the effects of the early administration of the antifibrinolytic agent tranexamic acid on death, vascular events and transfusion requirements. Adults with trauma who are within 8 hours of injury and have either significant haemorrhage, or who are considered to be at risk of significant haemorrhage, are eligible if the responsible doctor is for any reason substantially uncertain whether or not to use an antifibrinolytic agent. Numbered drug or placebo packs will be available in each participating emergency department. Randomisation will involve calling a 24-hour freecall randomisation service." There is renewed interest in the so-called 'anti-fibrinolytics' in trauma. Aprotinin is the more widely studied - and being a serine protease inhibitor, has more wide-ranging effects that an anti-fibrinolytic - including an antiinflammatory action. With the current trials of Factor VIIa in haemorrhagic shock and TBI - it is interesting to study a cheaper alternative with a different mechanism. (Of course it would be nice if we knew a bit more about traumatic coagulopathy before we started <wink>). Most people have forgotten about this German study - which was, I think, remarkable for it's time (1976). Chirurg. 1976 Apr;47(4):185-8. [Field study on the therapeutic value of trasylol in traumatic shock] [Article in German] Schneider B, Schnells G, Trentz O, Tscherne H. A report of the results of a multicenter study including 4686 patients concerning the therapeutic value of Trasylol (Aprotinin) in traumatic shock. The group treated additionally with Trasylol showed, beside a reduced overall mortality, a statistically significant reduction of mortality in those treated within the first 30 min after the injury. Surgery performed in the posttraumatic stage showed a lower mortality in the Trasylol group. The importance of a time factor in shock treatment and the effects of Trasylol in traumatic shock are emphasized. I have the article but have not been able to get it translated from the German yet. Of course 1976 is a long time ago - and clinical trials were conducted very differently then. But it certainly bears further investigation. Hopefully we are moving into a new era where we understand traumatic coagulopathy a bit better, have better markers than PT/PTT, and will have new agents other than 'lots of FFP' to manage it. Now whether one of those agents is Tranexamic Acid or not is another issue. 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