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ATLS ACLS, mandatory?

Sue Roundy Suefire6 at charter.net
Wed Apr 28 21:49:01 BST 2004


Frank,

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Sue


Frank Cross wrote:

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>on 26/4/04 1:21 pm, John Meade at jmeade at statdoc.com wrote:
>
>  
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>>AHA's ACLS and ACS's ATLS are both essentially weekend continuing education
>>programs. Neither prepares any physician for treating significantly ill or
>>injured patients, if that physician doesn't have a strong grounding in the
>>field already. In other words, a family doctor who has no real expertise in
>>treating trauma patients cannot be considered suddenly competent in trauma
>>care after a single weekend course. Likewise, for ACLS.
>>
>>I have been at least instructor level of just about all these courses over
>>the years. Their true value, in my opinion, is to teach a certain
>>standardized approach to treating critical patients, so that an entire team
>>will understand how to function together.
>>
>>With all this in mind, the answer to your question is that the "requirement"
>>for certain doctors to have certification in these courses varies from state
>>to state in the USA, and from hospital to hospital. Many hospitals do
>>require this. Others do not. Reasons vary in why this disparity exists. For
>>example, at my hospital, we require all physicians on the medical staff to
>>be board-certified in their particular field of practice, and consider such
>>residency training and board certification to supersede any weekend courses.
>>We do not discourage these courses (in fact, my group teaches many of them),
>>but we understand that the courses are helpful adjuncts to real training and
>>experience.
>>
>>JM
>>
>>John L. Meade, MD, FACEP
>>Emergency Medicine Specialist
>>Emerald Healthcare Group, PA
>>www.statdoc.com
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-bounces at trauma.org]
>>On Behalf Of T Takeda
>>Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 22:13
>>To: Trauma & Critical Care mailing list
>>Subject: ATLS ACLS, mandatory?
>>
>>I'm interested in the system approach for medical education
>>in the United States and would like to ask quick questions
>>for ATLS and ACLS.
>>
>>(A) Is it mandatory for the surgeons, trauma surgeons and
>>emergency physicians to obtain ATLS certification to work
>>in the hospital?
>>
>>(B) Is it mandatory for not only the emergency physicians but
>>also all the physicians in the U.S. to participate the ACLS
>>course by AHA (!) and obtain the certification?
>>
>>Your input is very much appreciated.  Thank you in advance.
>>
>>Taichi Takeda, MD
>>Kumamoto University, Japan.
>>
>>
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Sue Roundy, M.Ed., EMT-P (ret.)
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