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Of course not.  Neither should we methodically explore or invent =
rationale to declare war on anyone we decide needs a spanking. =20

It may ultimately be in the United States best interests to figure out =
how to admit when we're wrong.

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: SJASMD@aol.com=20
  To: trauma-list@trauma.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:55 AM
  Subject: Re: Substantial web site access rise - why?

  In a message dated 3/10/2003 4:17:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, =
pbjorn@emh.org writes:

    Subj: RE: Substantial web site access rise - why?=20
    Date: 3/10/2003 4:17:45 PM Eastern Standard Time
    From: pbjorn@emh.org
    Reply-to: trauma-list@trauma.org
    To: trauma-list@trauma.org
    Sent from the Internet=20

    Scott:
     =20
    Ah yes, the Stark incident.  One's wrath is, of course, aimed at the =
French! =20

    But wait--that was 1987, wasn't it? =20

    See, the thing is, Saddam was our boy back then.  Cap Weinberger =
himself declared the attack a horrible mistake, and the Iraqis expressed =
their deep regret; they agreed to financial compensation for the =
families, and to pay for reparations to the vessel. =20

    We were so cozy with Saddam, it seems, that while all of this was =
going on, US companies were authorized to sell him seven engineered =
strains of Bacillus anthracis (along with Clostridium botulinum, =
Histoplasma capsulatam, Brucella melitensis, Clostridium perfringens, =
and Clostridium tetani).  We were also providing satellite intel on the =
location of all those sneaky Kurdish savages, and steadfastly defending =
his brutal domestic indiscretions before the UN.
     =20
    None of this is particularly surprising, given the circumstances: =
the Stark was in the gulf mostly because of concern that Iran might gain =
control of the region.  Not long before the ship was attacked, Iran had =
deployed a bunch of Sidewinders within reach of the Strait of Hormuz.=20
     =20
    Wanna guess who sold Sidewinder missiles to Iran? =20

    Bingo.

    In fact, although there's no need to go into detail in this forum, I =
think you'll find that the entire Middle East--Iraq included--is full to =
overflowing with American arms, conventional and otherwise.  We're the =
planet's military SuperStore, with better than 80% of sales going to =
non-democratic governments--many of those within a Scud-throw of Iraq.  =
Let freedom cha-ching. =20

    Consider carefully that a majority of the most hideous weaponry =
currently accessible to terrorist organizations and totalitarian regimes =
was designed and/or constructed and/or and sold at a handsome profit by =
Americans.  Then ask yourself just how and when France earned the title =
of Bad Guy. =20

    History's so much easier to interpret if you dispense with the facts =
and the context.
     =20
    Pret

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Of course not.&nbsp; =
Neither should=20
we methodically explore or invent rationale to declare war on anyone we =
decide=20
needs a spanking.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2>It may ultimately be in =
the United=20
States best interests to figure out how to admit when we're =
wrong.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DSJASMD@aol.com =
href=3D"mailto:SJASMD@aol.com">SJASMD@aol.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtrauma-list@trauma.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:trauma-list@trauma.org">trauma-list@trauma.org</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 =
2:55=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Substantial web =
site access=20
  rise - why?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 3/10/2003 4:17:45 PM Eastern =
Standard=20
  Time, <A href=3D"mailto:pbjorn@emh.org">pbjorn@emh.org</A> =
writes:<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
  TYPE=3D"CITE">Subj: <B>RE: Substantial web site access rise - why?=20
    </B><BR>Date: 3/10/2003 4:17:45 PM Eastern Standard Time<BR>From: <A =

    href=3D"mailto:pbjorn@emh.org">pbjorn@emh.org</A><BR>Reply-to: <A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:trauma-list@trauma.org">trauma-list@trauma.org</A><BR>To: =
<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:trauma-list@trauma.org">trauma-list@trauma.org</A><BR><I>S=
ent=20
    from the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Scott:</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>&nbsp; <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Ah yes, the Stark incident.&nbsp; One's wrath =
is, of=20
    course, aimed at the French!&nbsp; </FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">But wait--that was 1987, wasn't it?&nbsp; =
</FONT><FONT=20
    lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial =
color=3D#000000 size=3D3=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">See, the thing is, Saddam was our boy back =
then.&nbsp;=20
    Cap Weinberger himself declared the attack a horrible mistake, and =
the=20
    Iraqis expressed their deep regret; they agreed to financial =
compensation=20
    for the families, and to pay for reparations to the vessel.&nbsp;=20
    </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT =
lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">We were so cozy with Saddam, it seems, that =
while all of=20
    this was going on, US companies were authorized to sell him seven =
engineered=20
    strains of Bacillus anthracis (along with Clostridium botulinum, =
Histoplasma=20
    capsulatam, Brucella melitensis, Clostridium perfringens, and =
Clostridium=20
    tetani).&nbsp; We were also providing satellite intel on the =
location of all=20
    those sneaky Kurdish savages, and steadfastly defending his brutal =
domestic=20
    indiscretions before the UN.</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>&nbsp; <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">None of this is particularly surprising, given =
the=20
    circumstances: the Stark was in the gulf mostly because of concern =
that Iran=20
    might gain control of the region.&nbsp; Not long before the ship was =

    attacked, Iran had deployed a bunch of Sidewinders within reach of =
the=20
    Strait of Hormuz. </FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
    face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D3 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>&nbsp;=20
    <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#800000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Wanna guess who sold =
Sidewinder=20
    missiles to Iran?&nbsp; </FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">Bingo.</FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2=20
    FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In fact, although there's no need to go into =
detail in=20
    this forum, I think you'll find that the entire Middle East--Iraq=20
    included--is full to overflowing with American arms, conventional =
and=20
    otherwise.&nbsp; We're the planet's military SuperStore, with better =
than=20
    80% of sales going to non-democratic governments--many of those =
within a=20
    Scud-throw of Iraq.&nbsp; Let freedom cha-ching.&nbsp; =
<BR><BR>Consider=20
    carefully that a majority of the most hideous weaponry currently =
accessible=20
    to terrorist organizations and totalitarian regimes was designed =
and/or=20
    constructed and/or and sold at a handsome profit by Americans.&nbsp; =
Then=20
    ask yourself just how and when France earned the title of Bad =
Guy.&nbsp;=20
    <BR><BR>History's so much easier to interpret if you dispense with =
the facts=20
    and the context.<BR>&nbsp; <BR>Pret<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT =
lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D2=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>PRET<BR>should we declare war on us</FONT>=20
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