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re image library

Ken Harrison trauma-list@trauma.org
Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:31:40 +1100


 Dear Nanto,

just more on what Ian says, it is true that in Victoria doctors rarely leave
the sanitised ED,s but in the other mainland states doctors are trained and
expected to turn up at major incidents and at entrapped patients and get
winched down( with paramedics ) to isolated patients.

For instance a train crashed just south of Sydney on Friday, 41 injured and
8 dead, and within 90 minutes there were 9 specialist doctors as well as
upteen ambulance officers at the scene and we all worked together well, all
the critical patients were treated by a doctor/paramedic TEAM which combines
the best of both worlds,

We are paid part time to do both reteival and prehospital work, not just
"pulled out of an ED" and when we on for retrieval we hang around the base
waiting for jobs and doing admin etc ( like reading Trauma.org !!)

we are not after your jobs, we just want to improve patient care

This exact setup is replicated in Queensland and a similar one operates in
SA.

Ken Harrison ( aneasthetist with 11 years retrieval experience)


Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:20:45 +1100
> From: "Ian Seppelt" <SeppelI@wahs.nsw.gov.au>
> To: <trauma-list@trauma.org>
> Subject: Re: Image library
> Reply-To: trauma-list@trauma.org
>
> Again you are only talking Melbourne, Nanto!!!!!
> Bit better organised in SA, NSW and Qld.
> Cheers, Ian [itinerant flight physician, NRMA Careflight]
>
> Ian Seppelt FANZCA FJFICM
> Staff Specialist in Anaesthesia and Intensive Care Medicine
> The Nepean Hospital, Penrith NSW 2750
>
>
> >>> ncielens@bigpond.com 02/02/03 05:34pm >>>
> Great site Rowley!
> Do Doctors ride with the ambos in the UK or is that for specialist
> retrieval? Many doctors over here seem to run in the other direction at
> crashes etc. (which is often a shame as their skills or even just their
> hands would be usefil), helicopter retrievals are undertaken by highly
> skilled intensive care paramedics here as well.
> Does it work well with the doctors? Are they from ED staffing or are they=
>
> rostered on extra for pre-hospital response. Our EDs could ill afford
> loosing any of its staff to respond to out of hospital emergencies.
> Again, well done. I set up a small site once and that was a huge effort,
> yours must have taken some time.
>
> Nanto Cielens
> Ambulance Paramedic
> Melbourne Australia
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rowley Cottingham" <rowley@rowleys-host.compulink.co.uk>
> To: <trauma-list@trauma.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:59 AM
> Subject: Image library
>
>
> > I am delighted to announce that the image library I told you about is
> > now available. Click on http://emergencyunit.com and follow the links.
> > So far about half the images are uploaded. This has been a huge project=
> ,
> > and there are definitely rough edges and probably errors. You know the
> > old saying - If you don't like it tell me, if you do tell everyone else=
> !
> > Enjoy!
> >
> >  Best wishes
> >
> > Rowley
> >
> > rowley@cix.co.uk=20
> >