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C-spine clearance

Ronald Simon trauma-list@trauma.org
Wed, 23 Apr 2003 14:08:22 -0400 

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I am missing something here:

statement 1: the ATLS no longer advocates Xtable lateral c spine film

statement 2: You can clear the c-spine clinically, or with plain
films using 3 views

Aren't xtable laterals one of the 3 views?
Thanks
Ron



Avi Roy Shapira wrote:

>Dear Yoram, 
>
>I don't know the source for the "current recommendation" to use a CT.  
>however, the ATLS no longer advocates Xtable lateral c spine film. This is
>a useless study.  You can clear the c-spine clinically, or with plain
>films using 3 views, or with dynamic studies.
>
>Please provide the reference to the use of CT.
>
>Avi
> 
>
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2003, yoram klein wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>>Good day everybody,
>>I have a question regarding cervical spine clearance
>>in comatose trauma patients. The current
>>recommendation is to perform a c-spine CT for those
>>patients, since the plain cervical films are
>>inadequate.  Is there still a place for plain lateral
>>c-spine films in those cases? Can we gain any
>>information from the plain films that we can't obtain
>>from the CT? What are the guidelines in your ED? 
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Yoram Klein MD,
>>Hadassah medical center
>>Jerusalem, Israel
>>
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>the Critical Care Unit               POB 151, Beer Sheva, Israel
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<pre wrap="">statement 1: the ATLS no longer advocates Xtable lateral c spine film</pre>
<pre wrap="">statement 2: You can clear the c-spine clinically, or with plain
films using 3 views

Aren't xtable laterals one of the 3 views?
Thanks
Ron
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Avi Roy Shapira wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">Dear Yoram, 

I don't know the source for the "current recommendation" to use a CT.  
however, the ATLS no longer advocates Xtable lateral c spine film. This is
a useless study.  You can clear the c-spine clinically, or with plain
films using 3 views, or with dynamic studies.

Please provide the reference to the use of CT.

Avi
 

 On Sun, 20 Apr 2003, yoram klein wrote:


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    <pre wrap="">Good day everybody,
I have a question regarding cervical spine clearance
in comatose trauma patients. The current
recommendation is to perform a c-spine CT for those
patients, since the plain cervical films are
inadequate.  Is there still a place for plain lateral
c-spine films in those cases? Can we gain any
information from the plain films that we can't obtain
from the CT? What are the guidelines in your ED? 

Thanks

Yoram Klein MD,
Hadassah medical center
Jerusalem, Israel


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