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Opiates & the Acute Abdomen

Holmes John trauma-list@trauma.org
Tue, 15 Apr 2003 08:40:45 +1000


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You're wrong - I work in an extremely collaborative environment.  But then
my surgeons are enlightened and see the valid need for analgesia.
 
Dr John L Holmes
Director Emergency Medicine
Mater Health Services
Brisbane,  Australia 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Geehan [mailto:geehand@umkc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2003 2:38
To: trauma-list@trauma.org
Subject: Re: Opiates & the Acute Abdomen
 
ED PHYSICIAN:   Yeah - but you know what Dr Sturgeon is like - needs to
convince himself that the pain is real - remember the gods of surgery don't
listen to mere mortals like you and me. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
John
Dr John L Holmes
Director Emergency Medicine
Mater Health Services
Brisbane,  Australia


Lighten up a bit doc....sounds like you need to find a more collaborative
practice environment....

;)
Doug


-- 
Douglas Geehan, M.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Surgery
University of Missouri-Kansas City
geehand@umkc.edu <mailto:geehand@umkc.edu> 
 

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Douglas Geehan
[mailto:geehand@umkc.edu]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 15 April =
2003 2:38<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
trauma-list@trauma.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Opiates =
&amp; the
Acute Abdomen</span></font></p>

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PHYSICIAN:&nbsp; &nbsp;Yeah &#8211; but you know what Dr Sturgeon is =
like &#8211; needs to
convince himself that the pain is real &#8211; remember the gods of =
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;)<br>
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