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MARK FORREST trauma-list@trauma.orgMon, 14 Apr 2003 23:18:10 +0100
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C302DC.1D9D13C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Colleagues, I approached the paper on 'paramedic RSI in severe traumatic brain = injuries', J Trauma, vol 54, March 2003 with great interest.=20 The conclusions are 'Paramedic RSI improves intubation success rates but = is associated with increase in mortalityand decrease in "good outcomes" = when compared to hand-matched controls'=20 Various reasons are given for this, but after reading the methods I am = frankly not surprised. I was horrified to read that the RSI is performed with sux and = midazolam, but sedation is only given if systolic BP is >120mmHg and = even when given, the maximum dose was 3mg (for the >100Kg group)! This does NOT constitute 'anaesthesia' and these patients were paralysed = and not 'asleep'. No record is made of post-intubation systolic blood = pressures, which were probably very high. Similarly, no account was made = of the effects on ICP during such 'awake-intubation'! Is this a standard 'RSI' practice in other parts of the world? Another area of concern in the methods involves the period of = de-nitrogenation before starting. 'a minimum of 60 seconds using a = non-rebreather mask. If oxygen saturation remained below 95%, then bag = and mask ventilation were instituted before medication...'=20 When I was taught RSI all manual ventilation was avoided to prevent = increased risk of gastric inflation and increased risk of aspiration! Considering these two issues and a number of others including the = hyperventilation to ETCO2 30-35mmHg and hypoxia 'sufficient to produce = bradycardia' in many of the cases, I am in no way surprised by the poor = outcome figures. Any comments, especially by paramedics/docs who competently perform RSI = on a regular basis? Regards Mark F UK ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C302DC.1D9D13C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Colleagues,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I approached the paper on 'paramedic = RSI in=20 severe traumatic brain injuries', <STRONG>J Trauma, vol 54, = March 2003=20 </STRONG>with great interest. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The conclusions are <EM>'Paramedic RSI = improves=20 intubation success rates but is associated with increase in mortalityand = decrease in "good outcomes" when compared to hand-matched controls'=20 </EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Various reasons are given for this, but = after=20 reading the methods I am frankly not surprised.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was horrified to read that the RSI is = performed=20 with sux and midazolam, but sedation is only given if systolic BP is = >120mmHg=20 and even when given, the maximum dose was 3mg (for the >100Kg=20 group)!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This does NOT constitute 'anaesthesia' = and these=20 patients were paralysed and not 'asleep'. No record is made of = post-intubation=20 systolic blood pressures, which were probably very high. Similarly, no = account=20 was made of the effects on ICP during such = 'awake-intubation'!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this a standard 'RSI' = practice in other=20 parts of the world?</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Another area of concern in the methods = involves the=20 period of de-nitrogenation before starting.<EM> 'a minimum of 60 = seconds=20 using a non-rebreather mask. If oxygen saturation remained below = 95%, then=20 bag and mask ventilation were instituted before=20 medication...'</EM></FONT><EM> </EM></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I was taught RSI all manual = ventilation was=20 avoided to prevent increased risk of gastric inflation and increased = risk of=20 aspiration!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Considering these two issues and a = number of others=20 including the hyperventilation to ETCO2 30-35mmHg and hypoxia=20 <EM>'sufficient to produce bradycardia'</EM> in many of the cases, I am = in no=20 way surprised by the poor outcome figures.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any comments, especially by = paramedics/docs who=20 competently perform RSI on a regular basis?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark F</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>UK</FONT></DIV> <DIV><EM><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2></FONT></EM> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C302DC.1D9D13C0--
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