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Pre-hospital Primary Survey

Dr. John L. Meade trauma-list@trauma.org
Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:58:18 -0500


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Ken,

That is an excellent suggestion. I believe we have several members of =
this list
with current military affiliations. Perhaps they will be able to obtain =
and
share, or urge their colleagues to do so. I think all of us, as we =
develop
clinical expertise, realize that we need less technology and data, and =
develop
pattern recognition techniques to help us make our evaluations of =
patients in
urgent situations. If this knowledge base has been distilled and made =
more
usable, especially in some way that can be quantified and compared with =
prior
techniques, it could propel EMS forward dramatically.

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John L. Meade, MD, FACEP=20

Emergency Medicine Specialist

Emerald Healthcare Group, P.A.=20

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I honor my personality flaws, for without them I would have no =
personality at
all.

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-----Original Message-----
From: trauma-list-admin@trauma.org [mailto:trauma-list-admin@trauma.org] =
On
Behalf Of KMATTOX@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 14:31
To: trauma-list@trauma.org
Subject: Re: Pre-hospital Primary Survey

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I would STRONGLY suggest that we obtain some of the data coming out of =
Iraq from
the military medics.   I understand that they are using a field primary =
survey
totally different from previous wars, and from our current civilian =
evaluations.
I have heard that BP machines are not carried by special forces medics.  =
  I
think they are developing some interesting data with its evidence based =
outcomes
components. =20

k


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>That
is an excellent suggestion. I believe we have several members of this =
list with
current military affiliations. Perhaps they will be able to obtain and =
share,
or urge their colleagues to do so. I think all of us, as we develop =
clinical
expertise, realize that we need less technology and data, and develop =
pattern
recognition techniques to help us make our evaluations of patients in =
urgent
situations. If this knowledge base has been distilled and made more =
usable,
especially in some way that can be quantified and compared with prior
techniques, it could propel </span></font>EMS forward dramatically.</p>

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
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MD, FACEP </span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:green;font-style:italic=
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Medicine Specialist</span></font></i></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Emerald =
Healthcare Group,
P.A. </span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt'><a href=http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2003-April/3D"http://www.statdoc.com/"><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
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face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;line-height:150%;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I honor my personality flaws, for without them I would have =
no
personality at all.</span></font></i></em></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
trauma-list-admin@trauma.org
[mailto:trauma-list-admin@trauma.org] <b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span
 =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>KMATTOX@aol.com</span></fon=
t><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 13, =
2003 14:31<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
trauma-list@trauma.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Pre-hospital =
Primary
Survey</span></font></p>

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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>I would STRONGLY suggest that we obtain some =
of the
data coming out of Iraq from the military medics.&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
understand that
they are using a field primary survey totally different from previous =
wars, and
from our current civilian evaluations.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have heard =
that BP
machines are not carried by special forces medics.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
think
they are developing some interesting data with its evidence based =
outcomes
components.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
k</span></font></p>

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