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I vote Doctors (was Guns or Doctors)

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Wed, 17 Apr 2002 17:17:48 EDT


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In a message dated 17-Apr-02 08:21:32 Central Daylight Time, pbjorn@emh.org 
writes:


> 
> Finally, if you want to turn an apple into an orange to permit comparison, 
> I think it's important to account for both costs and benefits.  For every 
> physician error resulting in death, there are an unknown but surely 
> enormous number of physician decisions which save or improve lives.  
> Therefore, we should examine not gun ownership, but gun use: the ratio of 
> firearm-related encounters in which the weapon performed in the interest of 
> defense or safety, vs. those in which preventable injury or death resulted.
> 

Pret, part of the problem here is that to be fair, you would then have to 
figure some way to include the incidents where gun *use* has prevented the 
death or disability of an innocent party...

I suspect that there have been a *large* number of incidents where a person 
with a CCW permit and a fire arm has been able to convince a two legged 
predator that there are no easy pickings around...since many of those 
incidents would not be reported, how would you quantify them?

Charles S. Krin, DO
KC5EVN

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 17-Apr-02 08:21:32 Central Daylight Time, pbjorn@emh.org writes:<BR>
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</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#800000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Finally, if you want to turn an apple into an orange to permit comparison, I think it's important to account for both costs and benefits.&nbsp; For every physician error resulting in death, there are an unknown but surely enormous number of physician decisions which save or improve lives.&nbsp; Therefore, we should examine not gun ownership, but gun use: the ratio of firearm-related encounters in which the weapon performed in the interest of defense or safety, vs. those in which preventable injury or death resulted.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Pret, part of the problem here is that to be fair, you would then have to figure some way to include the incidents where gun *use* has prevented the death or disability of an innocent party...<BR>
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I suspect that there have been a *large* number of incidents where a person with a CCW permit and a fire arm has been able to convince a two legged predator that there are no easy pickings around...since many of those incidents would not be reported, how would you quantify them?<BR>
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Charles S. Krin, DO<BR>
KC5EVN</FONT></HTML>

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