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Peter Barrett trauma-list@trauma.orgMon, 25 Mar 2002 23:18:30 -0000
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I still say curry and beer is curry and beer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowley Cottingham" <rowley@rowleys-host.compulink.co.uk> To: <trauma-list@trauma.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: RE: Combitube > The difference is that these patient groups are different in their > demographics, and, to put it bluntly, their chances of survival. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: trauma-list-admin@trauma.org > > [mailto:trauma-list-admin@trauma.org]On Behalf Of Peter Barrett > > Sent: 16 March 2002 21:29 > > To: trauma-list@trauma.org > > Subject: Re: Combitube > > > > > > So its OK to use the LM during cardiac arrest after having curry > > and a beer > > but its not safe if you are involved in trauma - I dont think so. > > Lets apply > > some commonsense - just use equipment that you are familiar with. For me > > that would be the LM Proseal (familiar, easy to insert, good pharyngeal > > seal, ability to vent the oesophagus and a conduit, with the aid of a > > fibreoptic scope and Aintree catheter to secure a definitive airway) or > > possibly even ILMA. > > OK you cant guarantee that the lower airway will be protected against > > aspiration but surely its a case of risk v's benefit - what are the risks > > and where is the data that the LM is dangerous in trauma patients > > - Benefits > > are obvious. > > As for the combitube - use it if you are familiar with it and it works for > > you. > > I wouldn't stand up in court for either side on this one! > > > > Pete Barrett > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rowley Cottingham" <rowley@rowleys-host.compulink.co.uk> > > To: <trauma-list@trauma.org> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:06 AM > > Subject: RE: Combitube > > > > > > > I agree entirely with John Holmes. I have gone on record before > > as stating > > > that I would act for the prosecution in any case where soiling of the > > lower > > > airway occurred after insertion of a laryngeal mask after > > trauma. There is > > > good evidence that the soiling is no worse in the cardiac > > arrest situation > > > that using BVM (Baskett and Stone) but none that it is anything but > > > dangerous in the traumatised patient. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Rowley Cottingham > > > rowley@cix.co.uk > > > http://emergencyunit.com > > > premier emergency medicine on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > > > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > > > http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html > > > > > > > > > -- > > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > > http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html > > > > > -- > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html >
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