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"when to shoot a patient"

Björn G Leifsson trauma-list@trauma.org
Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:20:45 +0000


Mr. Pret!
Please do not put meaning behind my words that is not there.
My intention was not to support the existence of this document in any way.
I was only reflecting on the reasons for its existence.

My feeling towards this document is one of sadness but understanding. Not 
of acceptance.

I spent a year once, working as surgical intern in a large urban American 
county hospital. There I came to know how working and living every day 
facing misery and delinquency breeds contempt and sarcasm which may lay the 
foundations to racism and bigotry.

sincerely

Björn Geir

At 13:09 7.3.2002, you wrote:
>Dr. Leifsson,
>
>If there is a place for this degree of gallows humor, it is an exceedingly
>small place; the gallows, perhaps.  But probably not even there.
>
>Surely, a culture steeped in violence and poverty will affect the
>performance of any hospital.  As unsettling as the Johannesburg patient=
 care
>protocols are, they are at least understandable in context.  But I could=
 not
>disagree more strongly that the "When to shoot a patient" document should=
 be
>measured by the same standard.  It is NOT a symptom of an evil situation;
>it's a vector.
>
>If the hospital is not the last refuge of decency in a community, all hope
>is lost.  Human slips, quirks, and foibles bubble to the top from time to
>time; but when a health care facility places its name on a web site above a
>protocol for surgical experimentation on dirtbags, it shames us all.
>
>I'm disappointed at the lack of outrage here.
>
>Pret Bjorn, RN
>Trauma Coordinator
>EMMC Trauma Program
>Bangor, ME USA
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Björn G Leifsson [mailto:bjorngl@itn.is]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:48 PM
>To: trauma-list@trauma.org
>Subject: Re: "when to shoot a patient"
>
>Re: "when to shoot a patient"
>
>This category of humour is called "Gallow humour" in our language.
>I understand and respect the soil from which it has sprung.
>Too us living in peace and tranquility it is extremely bad taste but put in
>its own context it should be regarded as a symptom of an evil situation.
>
>Have a nice day
>
>Björn Geir Leifsson MD
>Consultant / Staff Surgeon
>Dept. of Surgery
>Landspitali University Hospital
>Lsp Fossvogi
>108 Reykjavik
>ICELAND
>bjorngl@landspitali.is
>+354 525 1000 (Hosp. switchb.)
>+354 867 8836 (mobile)
>+354 525 1304 (fax)
>
>
>
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Björn Geir Leifsson MD
Consultant / Staff Surgeon
Dept. of Surgery
Landspitali University Hospital
Lsp Fossvogi
108 Reykjavik
ICELAND
bjorngl@landspitali.is
+354 525 1000 (Hosp. switchb.)
+354 867 8836 (mobile)
+354 525 1304 (fax)