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Rosann Juska trauma-list@trauma.org
Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:11:16 -0800


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I love the Combi tube!!! I often use it instead of an oral or nasal, if =
the situation is right. You can not use it for persons under 5 foot, has =
a gag reflex, a person who had ingested a corrosive substance of someone =
with an esophageal disease such as Cancer, or severe upper airway =
bleeding b/c it will pass directly into the lungs once the cuff has =
closed off the esophagus. It can be inserted "blindly" which avoids =
improper placement. I am not sure if this answered your question, but if =
not I can try again!

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                   Rosann Juska
                    EMT-P/ER Tech/IC
"We all take different paths in life, but no matter
 where we go, we take a little of each other everywhere."
--- Tim McGraw

"The fate of the wounded rest
in the hands of the one that
applies the first dressing."
-- Nicholas Senn, 1896

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Keith D. Lamb=20
  To: trauma-list@trauma.org ; Respiratory Care Professionals World =
Forum ; ccm-l@list.pitt.edu=20
  Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:58 AM
  Subject: (no subject)


  How often are folks intubating with double lumen endotracheal tubes =
and for what indications? I don't meant intra-op for thoracic =
surgery...but pre-op...or post-op...for specific injury/pathology and to =
facilitate independent lung ventilation.=20
  =20
  For what injury/pathology are you seeing this performed most often? =
Example parenchymal injury/pathology or bronchus injury.....fistula etc. =

  =20
  When your patient IS intubated in this fashion and each lung is being =
ventilated independently.....what kind of strategy do you employ =
regarding ventilator modes. Do you synchronize or not. Do you attempt to =
use just a little bit of CPAP with the injured side...or some other =
strategy. Do you conventionally ventilate the healthy lung and "jet" or =
"oscillate" the injured lung? Does tracheal gas insufflation have a role =
in this setting?  Any thoughts?
  =20
  keith
  =20
  Keith D. Lamb RCP, RRT
  Christiana Care Hospital
  Newark, Delaware

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corrosive substance of someone with an esophageal disease such as =
Cancer, or=20
severe upper airway bleeding b/c it will pass directly into the lungs =
once the=20
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improper placement. I am not sure if this answered your question, but if =
not I=20
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EMT-P/ER Tech/IC<BR>"We all take different paths in life, but no=20
matter<BR>&nbsp;where we go, we take a little of each other =
everywhere."<BR>---=20
Tim McGraw</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"The fate of the wounded rest<BR>in the hands of the one =
that<BR>applies=20
the first dressing."<BR>-- Nicholas Senn, 1896<BR></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:kdlamb@prodigy.net" title=3Dkdlamb@prodigy.net>Keith =
D. Lamb</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:trauma-list@trauma.org"=20
  title=3Dtrauma-list@trauma.org>trauma-list@trauma.org</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:RC_WORLD@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU"=20
  title=3DRC_WORLD@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>Respiratory Care Professionals =
World=20
  Forum</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:ccm-l@list.pitt.edu"=20
  title=3Dccm-l@list.pitt.edu>ccm-l@list.pitt.edu</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 03, 2002 =
7:58=20
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> (no subject)</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How often are folks intubating with =
double lumen=20
  endotracheal tubes and for what indications? I don't meant intra-op =
for=20
  thoracic surgery...but pre-op...or post-op...for specific =
injury/pathology and=20
  to facilitate independent lung ventilation. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For what injury/pathology are you =
seeing this=20
  performed most often? Example parenchymal injury/pathology or bronchus =

  injury.....fistula etc. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When your patient IS intubated in =
this fashion=20
  and each lung is being ventilated independently.....what kind of =
strategy do=20
  you employ regarding ventilator modes. Do you synchronize or not. Do =
you=20
  attempt to use just a little bit of CPAP with the injured side...or =
some other=20
  strategy. Do you conventionally ventilate the healthy lung and "jet" =
or=20
  "oscillate" the injured lung?&nbsp;Does&nbsp;tracheal gas insufflation =
have a=20
  role in this setting? &nbsp;Any thoughts?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>keith</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith D. Lamb RCP, RRT<BR>Christiana =
Care=20
  Hospital<BR>Newark, Delaware</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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