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Prehospital Competence (was RE: This is just plain SICK!!!!!!!!!!)
Nick Nudell trauma-list@trauma.orgWed, 13 Feb 2002 13:30:17 -0700
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1B492.933910A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aye. For once I think I can agree with Pret. This subject was indeed thoroughly discussed on the paramedicine list = prior to it being raised on this trauma list. A constructive (mostly) = conversation was had. Your points on the actions of a few reflect on the rest, are very true. = Just as EMSrs might form an opinion about a particular hospital based on = the actions of a few nurses or doctors, there very well may be other = completely qualified, competent, and respectful caregivers at that same = facility. I took the liberty of PCng your statement: "Tragic, yes--and there but = for the grace of God go any of our ( EMS systems, Police Departments, = Fire Departments, ER/A&E, OR/Theatre, ICU, ITU, NICU, PICU, Radiology, = Taxi, Flight Attendants, Factory Workers, Nursing Homes, etc), which = attract passionate, sometimes opinionated, and very occasionally = incompetent providers." Be safe. Drive fast (for EMSrs). Keep warm. Nick =20 ____ Nick Nudell, NREMT-P Glacier County EMS www.glacierems.com Northern Rockies Medical Center Cut Bank, MT nick@glacierems.com ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1B492.933910A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2002/3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3DWord.Document name=3DProgId> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <META content=3D"Microsoft Word 10" name=3DOriginator><LINK=20 href=http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2002/3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C1B3DB.C2751FB0" = rel=3DFile-List><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"State"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"City"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><o:SmartTagType=20 name=3D"place"=20 namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagT= ype><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:Compatibility> <w:ApplyBreakingRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]> <STYLE>st1\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui) } </STYLE> <![endif]--> <STYLE> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial; mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.SpellE {mso-style-name:""; mso-spl-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */=20 table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} </style> <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-US style=3D"tab-interval: .5in" vLink=3Dpurple = link=3Dblue=20 bgColor=3Dwhite> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Aye.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>For once I think I can agree with=20 Pret.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>This subject was indeed thoroughly = discussed on=20 the paramedicine list prior to it being raised on this trauma list. A=20 constructive (mostly) conversation was had.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Your points on the actions of a few = reflect on the=20 rest, are very true. Just as EMSrs might form an opinion about a = particular=20 hospital based on the actions of a few nurses or doctors, there very = well may be=20 other completely qualified, competent, and respectful caregivers at that = same=20 facility.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>I took the liberty of PCng your = statement:=20 "</FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Tragic, = yes--and there but=20 for the grace of God go any of our <FONT face=3DTahoma=20 color=3D#000000>( </FONT>EMS systems, Police Departments, Fire = Departments,=20 ER/A&E, OR/Theatre, ICU, ITU, NICU, PICU, Radiology, Taxi, Flight=20 Attendants, Factory Workers, Nursing Homes, etc<FONT face=3DTahoma=20 color=3D#000000>)</FONT>, which attract passionate, sometimes = opinionated, and=20 very occasionally incompetent providers.</FONT><FONT face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>"</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Be safe. Drive fast (for EMSrs). Keep=20 warm.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Nick</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>____<BR>Nick Nudell, NREMT-P<BR>Glacier County EMS<BR><A=20 href=http://www.trauma.org/index.php/community/list/url/http:list.ftech.net/pipermail/trauma-list/2002/3D"http://www.glacierems.com">www.glacierems.com</A><BR>Northern = Rockies=20 Medical Center<BR>Cut Bank, MT<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:nick@glacierems.com">nick@glacierems.com</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C1B492.933910A0--
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