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penetrating trauma definition

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Thu, 10 Jan 2002 07:04:15 EST 

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In a message dated 1/9/2002 6:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, cursic@msn.com 
writes:


> Hmmm...Dr. Frykberg, I wonder if your definition might not be a bit too 
> broad.  Would you classify a patient with a stellate laceration of the 
> forehead, caused by sudden deceleration onto an automobile dashboard, and 
> accompanied by a subdural hematoma, as a victim of penetrating trauma?  I 
> would call it a blunt head injury myself.  Unless we subdivide it into a 
> blunt head injury with a penetrating scalp component.  That 

Sure--this is blunt trauma which includes a penetrating injury--what in the 
world is the problem here?  We are desperate to find something--anything--to 
stir up an issue?????
What , again, is the problem with describing what we see, rather than just 
pretending a troublesome portion of the injury which does not fit into the 
neat boxes on your data form does not exist?
ERF

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0"><B>In a message dated 1/9/2002 6:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, cursic@msn.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hmmm...Dr. Frykberg, I wonder if your definition might not be a bit too <BR>
broad.&nbsp; Would you classify a patient with a stellate laceration of the <BR>
forehead, caused by sudden deceleration onto an automobile dashboard, and <BR>
accompanied by a subdural hematoma, as a victim of penetrating trauma?&nbsp; I <BR>
would call it a blunt head injury myself.&nbsp; Unless we subdivide it into a <BR>
blunt head injury with a penetrating scalp component.&nbsp; That </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Sure--this is blunt trauma which includes a penetrating injury--what in the world is the problem here?&nbsp; We are desperate to find something--anything--to stir up an issue?????<BR>
What , again, is the problem with describing what we see, rather than just pretending a troublesome portion of the injury which does not fit into the neat boxes on your data form does not exist?<BR>
ERF</B></FONT></HTML>

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