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I agree with ERF. It is too restrictive.  Consider the option that is a =
trauma caused by an object or projectile to enter a compartment of the =
body. Another option is consider if it  lay across a fascial layer.=20
Enrique Montbrun=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: DocRickFry@aol.com=20
  To: trauma-list@trauma.org=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: penetrating trauma definition

  In a message dated 1/8/2002 4:41:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, =
Greg.Benton@wdbh.hume.org.au writes:

    Trauma Caused by force distributed over a small area of the body =
surface
    causing an object or projectile to enter a body cavity"

  N0--entering a body cavity is certainly too restrictive--a plate glass =
window shattering and lacerating the volar elbow down thru the brachial =
artery is clearly a penetrating injury--as is a GSW or strab in same =
area--yet not violating any body cavity.   By your definition, a =
laceration of the scalp would not be a penetrating injury--which of =
course it is.
  ERF=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with ERF. It is too =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Enrique Montbrun</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 08, 2002 =
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  definition</DIV>
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  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><B>In a message dated =
1/8/2002 4:41:36 PM=20
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href=3D"mailto:Greg.Benton@wdbh.hume.org.au">Greg.Benton@wdbh.hume.org.au=
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  TYPE=3D"CITE">Trauma Caused by force distributed over a small area of =
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    surface<BR>causing an object or projectile to enter a body=20
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  FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT"><B><BR>N0--entering a body cavity is certainly too=20
  restrictive--a plate glass window shattering and lacerating the volar =
elbow=20
  down thru the brachial artery is clearly a penetrating injury--as is a =
GSW or=20
  strab in same area--yet not violating any body cavity.&nbsp;&nbsp; By =
your=20
  definition, a laceration of the scalp would not be a penetrating =
injury--which=20
  of course it is.<BR>ERF</B></FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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