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But John don't you think then that every one of the dangerous implements =
in medicine and surgery require a medical licence for their use. If we =
use your logic then there would be no scalpels.

Tom Horan

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> From: 	Black, John[SMTP:John.Black@orh.nhs.uk]
> Reply To: 	trauma-list@trauma.org
> Sent: 	Quarta-feira, 16 de Outubro de 2002 13:30
> To: 	trauma-list@trauma.org
> Subject: 	RE: trocar technique for chest tubes
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> I am amazed that Argyl have not elected to remove the trocar from =
their
> chest drains as it is only a matter of time when this will be sited by =
an
> untrained and inexperienced clinican in the courts........
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> John Black
> Oxford
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: J Wood [mailto:bonecrusher@orthotrauma.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 11 October 2002 08:50
> To: trauma-list@trauma.org
> Subject: Re: trocar technique for chest tubes
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> Hear Hear!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jenny Moncur" <jmoncur@i-o.net.au>
> To: <trauma-list@trauma.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: trocar technique for chest tubes
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> I remember when I was doing my TNCC a few years back, one of the =
lecturers
> advised that one of the first things the trauma nurse should do when
> preparing for ICC insertion, is to remove the trocar from the tube, =
and
> place it in the sharps bin. This removes any temptation for less =
experienced
> medicos to use it!
> Good advice, which I have passed on to many of my own nursing =
students.
> Cheers
> Jenny Moncur
> Australia (previously ED/ICU nurse, now MICA Paramedic)
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> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
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> On 8/10/02 at 7:30 PM KMATTOX@aol.com wrote:
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> >Trocars associated with chest tubes have been placed in virtually =
every
> >organ
> >in the upper abdomen and chest, including colon, kidney, liver, =
abdominal
> >aorta, spleen, stomach, duodenum, lung, thoracic aorta, esophagus, =
heart,
> >and
> >on and on.   It is not just the uninformed that put these trocars =
there.
> >These organs have been skewered by emergency physicians, thoracic
> >surgeons,
> >intensivists, general surgeons, seasoned surgeons, interns, and at =
times
> >non-MDs.
> >
> >k
> >
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