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Jeez... there's a whole lot of zebras in the pasture today.

Perhaps we can agree that the original question is flawed beyond any
expectation of a useful response.  Else, we'll all be asking about
Clostridia and Multiple Sclerosis and coelenterate stings.

If someone made me bet fifty cents and have a toss at my experiential
dartboard, I'd guess these spasms were voluntary.  Nothing like a little
flailing about to get extra attention from providers...

But in the end, it's all guesswork--and as such, perfectly useless.

Pret Bjorn, RN
Bangor, ME USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wigle MD FACS [  <mailto:rlwigle@yahoo.com>
mailto:rlwigle@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:38 AM
To: trauma-list@trauma.org
Subject: RE: Spasms and drunks

I would agree that a better description is needed. the
"spasms" associated with alcohol are generally more along
the lines of tremors unless you are talking about
withdrawal which seems unlikely in this case

I would wonder about some other intoxicant in addition to
alcohol. Strychnine comes readily to mind

LTC R Wigle

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<DIV><FONT color=#800000 face=Arial size=2>Jeez... there's a whole lot of zebras 
in the pasture today.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#800000 face=Arial size=2>Perhaps we can&nbsp;agree that the 
original question is flawed beyond any expectation of a useful response.&nbsp; 
Else, we'll all be asking about Clostridia and Multiple Sclerosis and 
coelenterate stings.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#800000 face=Arial size=2>If someone made me bet fifty cents 
and have a toss at my experiential dartboard, I'd guess these spasms were 
voluntary.&nbsp; Nothing like a little flailing about to get extra attention 
from providers...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#800000 face=Arial size=2>But in the end, it's all 
guesswork--and as such, perfectly useless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000><FONT face=Arial>Pret Bjorn, 
RN</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT color=#800000 face=Arial>Bangor, ME 
USA<BR><BR></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>-----Original 
Message-----<BR>From: Richard Wigle MD FACS [</FONT><A 
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Monday, June 17, 2002 8:38 AM<BR>To: trauma-list@trauma.org<BR>Subject: RE: 
Spasms and drunks<BR><BR><BR>I would agree that a better description is needed. 
the<BR>"spasms" associated with alcohol are generally more along<BR>the lines of 
tremors unless you are talking about<BR>withdrawal which seems unlikely in this 
case<BR><BR>I would wonder about some other intoxicant in addition 
to<BR>alcohol. Strychnine comes readily to mind<BR><BR>LTC R 
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