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Wed, 12 Jun 2002 01:41:04 -0400
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Since you asked- if I smell alcohol on one of my officers, I can order a breathalyzer per policy. If it's positive, he'll certainly be suspended, and possibly fired. If he's been driving, and he's over the limit he'll be charged. However, it's important to draw a distinction here- alcohol is legal. Reporting to work while under the influence is certainly an exercise of bad judgment. Marijuana is illegal, and possessing or using it isn't simply bad judgment it's a crime. Big difference. Dave Adler, EMT-P Editor, Prehospital Perspective Magazine www.prehospital-perspective.com email@example.com=20 =20 =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] > On Behalf Of Thomas Anthony Horan > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:37 AM > To: 'firstname.lastname@example.org' > Subject: RE: Drug (ab)use in Medicine? >=20 > Dear Dave >=20 > Does your department also do random breathalyzers on officers and are the > occasional positive tests followed by instant dismissal no questions > asked? >=20 > Tom Horan >=20 > > ---------- > > From: Dave Adler EMT-P[SMTP:email@example.com] > > Reply To: firstname.lastname@example.org > > Sent: Ter=E7a-feira, 11 de Junho de 2002 02:05 > > To: email@example.com > > Subject: RE: Drug (ab)use in Medicine? > > > > Andrew wrote: Never seen anybody injured while fighting with a man on > > marijuana, or anyone killed by a man driving his car while 'stoned'. > > Seen thousands of people injured or killed because of alcohol. Lets get > > that into perspective!! > > > > Andy, > > > > I want to move to wherever you live. Here, I see those two things > > weekly, some weeks daily. > > > > I've made 30 or so DUI arrests this year (I'm a full-time police > > sergeant in Philadelphia). In 13 of those cases, marijuana has been the > > intoxicant. Of those 13, 5 have involved accidents with injuries. You > > don't even want to know the number of assaults I've handled where > > marijuana has been a factor. > > > > The notion that marijuana is a harmless, or less-harmful, drug is a > > fallacy. > > > > Of course, all other arguments aside, there is one that is irrefutable. > > Marijuana is illegal in my neck of the woods. Those in a position of > > public trust cannot fail to abide by the law and expect to maintain > > their positions. By way of example, if you get caught using in my > > service (and we do frequent, random drug testing) you're fired. No > > questions asked. Not to mention that a conviction for a drug offense > > can cost someone their license/certification. > > > > > > Dave Adler, EMT-P > > Editor, Prehospital Perspective Magazine > > www.prehospital-perspective.com > > firstname.lastname@example.org > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: email@example.com > > [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] > > > On Behalf Of andrew frazer > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 3:30 PM > > > To: email@example.com > > > Subject: Re: Drug (ab)use in Medicine? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Cotton, Chris (SAAS)" <firstname.lastname@example.org> > > > >Reply-To: email@example.com > > > >To: "'firstname.lastname@example.org'" <email@example.com> > > > >Subject: Drug (ab)use in Medicine? > > > >Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 16:11:07 +0930 > > > > > > > >......... I turn the lights off, light some incense, stoke my pipe > > and > > > I'm > > > >taken on a musical journey for an hour. Hey - it works for > > > me............. > > > > > > > >Chris - just what do you put in that pipe? :) > > > > > > > >John > > > > > > > >Dr John L Holmes > > > >Director Emergency Medicine > > > >Mater Hospitals, Brisbane, Australia > > > > > > > > > > > >Hmmmm, i could give the boring answer, or one that might stimulate > > some > > > >discussion, and perhaps even debate. I do this not necessarily as an > > > >advocate of what follows, but in the interest of seeing how other > > trauma > > > >players view the topic. We can be lame and ignore it, or we can look > > at > > > it > > > >and discuss it. > > > > > > > >Hypothetically, suppose i said it was marijuana that i put in the > > pipe; > > > and > > > >that i did it because i found it stimulating to my musical ear, it > > > >increased > > > >my clarity of thought and i enjoyed the sensation of being mildly > > stoned > > > >OCCASIONALLY? Would one cite studies that categorically denied that > > this > > > >might be a desireable side effect in some people? > > > > > > > >Would people start immediately citing references to studies that > > showed > > > the > > > >deleterious effects of the drug? Would they then also do the same for > > PDI > > > >inhibitors like caffeine, or other epidemiological studies that > > showed > > > the > > > >effects of alcohol and tobacco and their impacts on society? > > > > > > > >Would one then dare ask how many EMS workers use marijuana (or other > > > drugs) > > > >occasionally, and how many of them may infact have spent longer in > > the > > > job > > > >because they employed a behaviour that helped them take time out from > > > their > > > >jobs occasionally and gave them "stress relief" perhaps. Their > > equivalent > > > >of > > > >the Theatre, gardening or a concert perhaps? > > > > > > > >Remember that this is only hypothetical, so please don't shoot the > > > >messenger > > > >for asking legitimate questions and bringing up discussion that > > examines > > > >drug use by EMS workers. I know a lot of people in the EMS industry > > who > > > do > > > >use different drugs, both legitimate and illicit occasionally. > > > >Understanding > > > >what they use and a having a responsible attitude to their use, in > > their > > > >eyes does not necessarily correlate as an issue for most of them. > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > >Chris Cotton > > > >Intensive Care Paramedic. > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > > > >To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > > > >http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html > > > > > > > > > Never seen anybody injured while fighting with a man on marijuana, or > > > anyone > > > killed by a man driving his car while 'stoned'. Seen thousands of > > people > > > injured or killed because of alcohol. Lets get that into perspective!! > > > > > > Andy. (Not a user!) Casualty Nurse. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > > -- > > > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > > > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > > > http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html > > > > -- > > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > > http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html > > >=20 > -- > trauma-list : TRAUMA.ORG > To change your settings or unsubscribe visit: > http://www.trauma.org/traumalist.html